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COMPLETED Claud Butler of Fulham - with Carmarthenshire COMPLETED
« on: Saturday 10 October 09 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi there.
Could some please look up the Butler family for me please?
Claud was born in Fulham in July 1903. I have no idea as to names of siblings or parents. Would appreciate any help you can give.
Many thanks.
Liz

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Liz,

A Claud Butler born 14th July 1903 was christened 23 October 1904 at Immanuel Streatham, parents John Morgan Butler (Draper) and Mary Ethel, of 6 Waldemar Avenue Fulham Road. A brother Geoffrey Howard George Butler born 7th Mar 1902 was christened the same day.

If you search for Claud on the 1911 census index, I have a feeling you might find him as 'Clara' in Kingston district, Surrey.

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:08 BST (UK) »
A John Morgan Butler marries a Mary Ethel Wotton in March quarter 1901, West Ashford district 2a 1060.

I see a birth registration for a Mary Ethel Wotton in West Ashford in 1873. Let's see if we can find them together in 1901 ...

in the meantime, this looks like a good match for her in 1881:
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0798/
RG11/946 76 1

(added: not sure where she's hiding in 1891 - the rest of the family is at RG12/699 78 1)
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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:13 BST (UK) »
Wow, Tati, what a quick response! I'm amazed  :)
Yes, you have the right Claud (famous cycle maker), I know he also had a sister, have no knowledge of her name though, only that she married a Fred Pratt.
I really appreciate the help you are giving me. Many many thanks.
Liz

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:34 BST (UK) »
Birth registration
Joan M Butler mother's maiden name Wotton
Dec 1911 Kingston 2a 742

(There's a marriage in 1932 to Frederick H Pratt, again in Kingston district)

This is a bit odd, mind, because the 1911 census already seems to show a sister Joan age 5 months.

Another possible sister:
Margaret C P Butler mother's maiden name Wotton
Dec 1912 Kingston 2a 758 


I'm not having any luck finding John and Mary in 1901 so far
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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Tati.
I have been trying to find Claud on the 1911 census, typing in the name Clara, as suggested, but with no luck! I have also tried putting in his fathers details which you kindly supplied, but still nothing. I tried to use the 1911 site when it first started, to find another relative, but again failed to turn up anything, and yet a cousin put in the exact same info and found the details she was looking for. really doesn't make sense to me?
Thank you for finding Joan.
Liz

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 October 09 16:51 BST (UK) »
When I do a search on John Morgan Butler, I get one and only one hit. Sorry, don't know why it doesn't work for you  :(   
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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 October 09 18:14 BST (UK) »
Have managed to get into the census at last!
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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 October 09 18:39 BST (UK) »
Ah, good! In case you have an opportunity to view the actual details, let me know where it says John was born  :)
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