Author Topic: COMPLETED Claud Butler of Fulham - with Carmarthenshire COMPLETED  (Read 11762 times)

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 10 October 09 19:32 BST (UK) »
Will do  :)

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 10 October 09 20:02 BST (UK) »
Well, Tati, this is quite confusing! We have been looking at the original census for a while now. On the initial printout it states that John Morgan was born in Harwood S Wales. We have been searching google map etc, and there is no such place there. The only Harwood we can find is in New South Wales??
It's quite difficult to read the place name on original, definately S Wales though.
Also, on Original census, it clearly has Claud and not Clara as on the first print off.
Hope this makes sense?
Liz

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 10 October 09 20:17 BST (UK) »
Also, on Original census, it clearly has Claud and not Clara as on the first print off.
I'm not at all surprised!  :P

What a shame about the unclear birth place. I can't see a birth registration for John Morgan Butler at all, and no candidate on any census with a birth place similar to Harwood.

You could crop the part of the 1911 census image showing John's birth place and post a deciphering request on this board http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,425.0.html
Someone might just be able to recognise it!
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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 11 October 09 10:40 BST (UK) »
OK, found them in 1901, in a boarding house  :D

1901
RG13/127 21 33
Hampstead, London
187 Sumatra Rd

John M Butler, boarder, mar, 30, Draper, b. Carmarthen Llanneda (I think)
Ethel M Butler, boarder, mar, 28, Draper, b. Kent Charing

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 11 October 09 10:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

1901 census RG13 127 folio 21
187 Samatra Road Hampstead
John M Butler 30 Boarder Married Draper Lla ? da Carmarthen
Ethel M Butler 28 Boarder Married Charing Kent

My census provider has indexed it as 'Slauneda' but I personally think it starts with a double Ll. The nearest I could get to it would be LLanedi?


I think you need some Welsh specialists to look at both images of his birthplace. I'd put them on the Carmarthenshire board. If you are not able to do that I can move this post to the Carmarthenshire board (or you could post the details on the Carmarthenshire board) and hopefully at least the 1901 census can be looked at for you by anyone that has access to it.

It might be on earlier censuses you are looking for a John Morgan?
Having the details from the marriage certificate would also be a help.


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Valda
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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 11 October 09 14:46 BST (UK) »
Hi there.
I have tried to cut and paste a snippet from the 1911 census to post on the deciphering board, but having so many problems trying to bring this about. Last attempt prompted a message which read ' this message has already been posted'? I have searched but cannot find it!
Thank you Tati, for finding them in the boarding house.
Many thanks for all the help given.
Liz

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 11 October 09 15:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

Many Rootschatters have access to the 1901 census so I would suggest completing this post and starting a new post on the Carmarthenshire board giving all the details and see what is suggested there.


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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 11 October 09 16:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Valda.
Could you please move this posting to the Carmarthen site as offered in your previous reply, as if left to me it will probably end up in Scotland! :)
Thanks.
Liz

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Re: Claud Butler of Fulham
« Reply #17 on: Monday 12 October 09 07:54 BST (UK) »
Here's the 1901 image

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