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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 08 November 09 08:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi there,

I'm looking at the Commonwealth Electoral Roll for 1903.... perhaps the boundaries were different from the NSW Roll...  not sure... but anyways, at the Gereogery Polling Place and under the heading "place of living" for "Ellerslie" there's also:

Alfred Edward JOHNSON, a trapper...

I'll try to find Splitter's Creek mentioned on the roll...

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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 08 November 09 10:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone,

Thank you very much for all your information. It has been well received. I will now compile what I have and get back to the group if I have any further queries. One question that someone may be able to enlighten me about is I have a Margaret Brogan, daughter of James Brogan and Elleinor Horan, both from Ireland. Margaret was born in Ireland about 1821. She marryied Michael Murphy in Sydney on 10 Jun 1836. I have three children borne of this marriage. One of which is Bridget Murphy.

 The query I have is that I have two separate possibilities of who she married.
1 - William Davies Wales, married on 10 Jan 1858 in Yackandanda, NSW.
2 - William Batson who married about 1866 or so in the Gundaroo area.

The latter marriage has never been found.

I have documents on the children of William Batson and Bridget Murphy.


Any suggestions as to which might be the correct marriage?  I am unsure where Yackandanda is regarding Goulburn area.

Thanks

Jim

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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 08 November 09 11:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jim,

Yackandandra is very close to Albury. If you put it into Google Maps, that'll give you an idea how close it is.


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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #12 on: Monday 09 November 09 02:44 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,
Yackandandah is actually in Victoria. It is 33kms SW of Albury.
Regards
Alison
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Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.


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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #13 on: Monday 09 November 09 03:05 GMT (UK) »
Hi again,
The marriage I found on Vic BDM:
William WALES m Bridget MURPHY 1859 # 465
There are no children listed to this couple in VIC.
Children in NSW
1. Anne b 1850
2. Robert b 1853
3. Thomas H b 1855
4. Michael b 1858 Binalong
5. William b 1860 Yass
6.George b 1861 Binalong
7. Joseph b 1862 Binalong

Regards
Alison
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Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.

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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #14 on: Monday 09 November 09 03:39 GMT (UK) »
There is a death for William D WALES listed on NSW BMD site, 1908 Cootamundra, parents William and Eliza.

Also two deaths Bridget WALES, both with parents John and Mary
one registered Young, 1901
other registered Cootamundra 1918.

Given that there are the two deaths reg at Coota it is possible that this is the couple married in Vic.  The Vic marriage index doesnot give a place of birth for either party.  You could download the certificate for about $17 which SHOULD give info about their parents.

There are a number of deaths ofthe children found by Alison on the NSW BMD site from 1859 in Binalong to 1938 in Coota, with others in Booroowa and Yass which are all reasonably close.

If we could find some actual dates for these I'd be happy to look them up in the newspaper - the Coota Herald has some great obits but I need a date  :(


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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #15 on: Monday 09 November 09 03:45 GMT (UK) »
The names of both the bride's and groom's parents are detailed on Victorian certificates.  There is a facility to purchase [AUD$17.50] and immediately download an image from
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage

You will need the registration number.

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http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #16 on: Monday 09 November 09 03:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim,
William WALES b 1860 Yass d 1860 Yass
George  WALES b 1861 Binalong d 1861 Binalong
The children listed to William BATSON and Bridget? are
1. John b 1867
2. Thomas H b 1869
3. James b 1872
4. Ann J b 1875
5. Bridget W b 1876
6. Agnes b 1879.
All born in Albury.
The only death I can see is Thomas H BATSON d 1920 Sydney.

Seeing as how I can't see a death for Thomas H WALES in infancy, do you think Bridget would have had 2 Thomas H's in 14 years?

Thomas Henry WALES d 1938 Cootamundra.

More Wales deaths -parents William and Bridget:
Michael d 1898 Yass
George d 1912 West Wyalong
Robert S d 1925 Boorowa

There are 2 possibilities for Bridget WALES deaths but with wrong parents:
Wales Bridget d 1901 Young -parents John and Mary
Wales Bridget d 1918 Cootamundra-parents John and Mary

And one for { again wrong father}
 Bridget BATSON d 1912 Tumbarumba- father John { Tumbarumba is near Albury}

Regards
Alison

Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.

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Re: Eliza WILLIAMS, parents Susannah WORNES and John WILLIAMS 1860's
« Reply #17 on: Monday 09 November 09 03:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jim
The registration number for the marriage certificate for William Wales and Bridget Murphy is 465
Regards
Alison
Blundell- Sussex - Newcastle
Kiefel- Prussia- South Australia
Fiegert-Prussia- South Australia
Retford/Deptford-Hampshire- NSW
Keetley-Hathern Leicestershire-New Zealand
Other names: Collis, Williams,Courage, Andrew, Ransom, Gore.