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William Darrall of Wellington
« on: Monday 09 November 09 16:02 GMT (UK) »
William Darrall was born in Wellington (probably Dawley) in about 1830. He married Pheobe Powis in 1851 in Wellington (again, it might have been Dawley).

Can anyone please help me find out who his parents were? I have looked on the 1841 census and there was an 11-year old William Darrall who was a miner and lived in Coalmoor within Madeley. When I tried to look at the original census page, the wrong page was displayed. But I'm not sure this is the same William anyway. The family do seem to be located in Dawley.

Thank you,
Simon

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #1 on: Monday 09 November 09 16:07 GMT (UK) »
you could order the marr cert
that would give you his fathers name and occupation
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #2 on: Monday 09 November 09 17:15 GMT (UK) »
That is good advise from wozzle.

in the meantime I had a look around.

I see that they married at end of 1851, so should be there separately on 1851 census - have you found them there?
I couldnt see them - so went to 1861 to get a birthplace for William, but I couldnt see them there either!

have you the ref for them as a couple on any census after marriage?
plenty of Darrals and Powises in the area.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #3 on: Monday 09 November 09 17:43 GMT (UK) »
1861 census Madeley Shropshire RG9/1855   folio105  page5

Indexed as Dorrell

Jackie
Dudley Worcs:Ellis Durkin Oakley Rich Smith
Baggot Saunders Turner Williams Hobbs
Harts Hill: Baggot Wright

Tipton:Whitehouse (boatman) Timmins
Yorkshire:Littlewood Wilcockson
Derbyshire:Wilcockson

Derby Belper:Spencer
Herefordshire Brampton Bryan:-Turner

Worcs. Hereford. Gloucs.
Hodgetts




Radnorshire: Meredith
Bristol Somerset: Box

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #4 on: Monday 09 November 09 17:53 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jackie!

That gives his pob as Little Wenlock

which gives rise to 2 possibles in 1851

HO107 1989 33 18
21 son of Elizabeth. He is a miner  (ties up with the 1841 you found, mother there was an Elizabeth)

HO107 1989 13 18
21 lodger with the Beach family. He is a Puddler at Ironworks

If you get the marriage cert not only will it hopefully give his father, but also his occupation. So you can compare what he said his occupation was later in 1851 when he married with these two and hopefully see which one is likely to be yours!

Given that in 1861 he is a forgeman at Ironworks, then I would say the latter is most likely for him ( the lodger)
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 08:43 GMT (UK) »
In 1881, William Darrall was an iron worker living in Lawley Village, Wellington with his wife and children.

I have sent off for William and Pheobe's marriage certificate.

Thank you for your help up to now :)

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 15:07 GMT (UK) »
1841
HO107/928/17/35/11
john darrall age 40. occ. miner
elizabeth darrall age 40
hannah darrall age 13
william darrall age 11
solomon darrall age 9
ann darrall age 6
george darrall age 2
thos darrall age 1
living at;coalmoor, little wenlock,shropshire
reg.dist. madeley
all born in county
given that in 1861 he gives place of birth as little wenlock
think this could be your man
also is this the one you say that you got the wrong page up when you tried to look at it?
it is the right page though the image is very faint.
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 15:11 GMT (UK) »
hi wozzle

see my reply number 4
there seem to be 2 guys bn Wenlock, and the one you have found in 1841 (samr as Simon found)  I think is the 'mine'r one with mum Elizabeth, whereas it is looking like Simon's guy is the other one, who worked in Ironworks throughout his life and was a lodger in 1851.
But I cant see that one in 1841 as yet.
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: William Darrall of Wellington
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 10 November 09 16:22 GMT (UK) »
did not notice lizdb
what about this one
1841
HO107/928/17/9/9
william darroll age 50. b. in county. occ. looks like collier
beyn?(male) darroll age 20. b. ditto
martha darroll age 15. b. ditto
fanny darroll age 12. b. in county
william darroll age 10. b. ditto
mary darroll age 4. b. ditto
living at; little wenlock,shropshire
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn