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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 17:51 BST (UK) »
Harry,

"off South Circular Road, near Clanbrassil Street'  An Emorville terrace" This area is right beside the old Jewish Synagouge in Dublin, it is actually the Jewish Musuem now i think. It is a couple of minutes walk... It looks like most of the Jewish people got buried in

BALLYBOUGH JEWISH CEMETERY
Caretaker - tel. +353 1 836 9756

You could try these or contact the Jewish Rabbi's themselves who might be able to help.

Check out this URL http://www.jewishireland.org/contact.html





Thanks for all this info, I'm sure I should get some results from this. 

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Freeman Freedman Friedman.
Cohen
Rosenburg
From Leeds, Ireland, Liverpool & Lithuania

Welsby
From Lancashire and London.

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 June 10 12:10 BST (UK) »
Regarding Jewish ancestry in Ireland, the person to contact is Stuart Rosenblatt on (*)
 He has carried out a lot of research in this area. He is your expert.

Julia

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Murray of Arklow.
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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #20 on: Monday 28 June 10 15:24 BST (UK) »
Sorry Moderator, I should have known better. I will contact Stuart and let you know how I get on.

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Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #21 on: Monday 28 June 10 18:57 BST (UK) »
Regarding Jewish ancestry in Ireland, the person to contact is Stuart Rosenblatt on (*)
 He has carried out a lot of research in this area. He is your expert.

Julia

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Hi Julia,

Thank you.  Yes, I have exchanged information with Stuart last year & I keep in touch with him.  I have sent a blanket email out to every researcher on J/Gen & I've had over 350 replies so far. 

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that I have some good leads.

Thanks for your help

HarrysGirl2
Freeman Freedman Friedman.
Cohen
Rosenburg
From Leeds, Ireland, Liverpool & Lithuania

Welsby
From Lancashire and London.


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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #22 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 09:18 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this helps but it may allow you to eliminate
in 1901 there is a:
Freedman Lewis; Winding Harbour; Athboy; Meath; age 25; M; born Russia; Dealer; Jew; Cant read or write;  Boarder; Single
He is boarding with a family called Barrett
He is still listed in 1911 name then Luis and occupation Pedlar

You may not be aware that on the Irish census site you can tick the box for religion without any name and get a full listing - for Jew there are 3618 entries. You can then see the spread of people but more importantly sort into surname or forename order that can help find mis-spelling
As many could not read or write, or had a language problem the forms are only as good as the enumerator
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 11:45 BST (UK) »
Not sure if this helps but it may allow you to eliminate
in 1901 there is a:
Freedman Lewis; Winding Harbour; Athboy; Meath; age 25; M; born Russia; Dealer; Jew; Cant read or write;  Boarder; Single
He is boarding with a family called Barrett
He is still listed in 1911 name then Luis and occupation Pedlar

You may not be aware that on the Irish census site you can tick the box for religion without any name and get a full listing - for Jew there are 3618 entries. You can then see the spread of people but more importantly sort into surname or forename order that can help find mis-spelling
As many could not read or write, or had a language problem the forms are only as good as the enumerator


No I didn't know this, thank you that help s so much.  If the census was not taken at the same time as the English census, then I would have been excited by your Lewis/Lois finding.  But, I have found my grandfather Louis, on the 1891 in Leeds, & teh1901 i & 1911 in Liverpool.
Freeman Freedman Friedman.
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Rosenburg
From Leeds, Ireland, Liverpool & Lithuania

Welsby
From Lancashire and London.

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 12:47 BST (UK) »
Actually I was thinking the Meath Lewis/Luis might have been the Louis Friedman you had found travelling from Hamburg on 2nd Nov 1889.  As his occupation: Hawker  and you could eliminate him
Best of luck
Kearney & Bourke/ Johns & Fox/ Mannion & Finan/ Donohoe & Curley
Byrne [Carthy], Keeffe/ Germaine, Butler/ McDermott, Giblin/ Lally, Dolan
Toole, Doran; Dowling, Grogan/ Reilly, Burke; Warren, Kidd [Lawless]/ Smith, Scally; Mangan, Rodgers/ Fahy, Calday; Staunton, Miller
Further generations:
Brophy Coleman Eathorn(e) Fahy Fitzpatrick Geraghty Haverty Keane Keogh Nowlan Rowe Walder

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #25 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 13:09 BST (UK) »
I contacted Stuart and got the following reply from him.
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Doyle, Malone, Ryan, Wicklow.
Murray of Arklow.
(O)Carroll of Annamoe, & Cornagower, Brittas, Wicklow, & Co Carlow.
Waters, Haughton, Leviston, Goggin. Kavanagh Wicklow.
Lavender and Newman of Ballyhad, Rathdrum.

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #26 on: Tuesday 29 June 10 13:27 BST (UK) »
Actually I was thinking the Meath Lewis/Luis might have been the Louis Friedman you had found travelling from Hamburg on 2nd Nov 1889.  As his occupation: Hawker  and you could eliminate him
Best of luck

Ah... I see.  I should update that original post, because I've already needed to eliminate the Louis on a shipping list.  (Sorry)

He was travelling in November 1889 from Hamburg - destination Hull.  The timing was just right to marry his first wife Rachel in Leeds, in April 1890.  I as so excited finding this Louis Friedman, who was from LOMZA. His occupation was given in German as Handler = Dealer/Hawker his age was 23 & there were no other Friedman's on the list.  I tried everything to link him to my grandfather, but nothing. 

So, I followed the guy who was next in line, listed after Louis from Lomza on the list.  His name was Max Grawecki & he was aged 20 & also from Lomza.  Of course he could have been simply the next guy in line & nothing to do with Louis, but I searched the UK hoping to find a marriage for Max & perhaps Louis was a witness or perhaps they boarded together, but I found nothing of Max.  This went on for 6 months. 

Then recently, a friend thru another friend in the US, found that Louis & Max were together... they arrived together in New York just before Christmas 1889, after changing ships in Liverpool :-(

So, I'm back to square one with my grandfather's place of origin.  Sorry, it's a while since I did that original post & I should have re-read it & updated it.

HG2


Freeman Freedman Friedman.
Cohen
Rosenburg
From Leeds, Ireland, Liverpool & Lithuania

Welsby
From Lancashire and London.