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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 00:16 BST (UK) »
May I ask for a look-up for the occupiers of - 2, Emorville Square, Dublin on the 1891 & the 1911 Dublin censuses.  Or for a death for this Julius Freedman (IF his name was Julius) who lived at 2, Emorville Square Dublin aged 65 on the 1901 Dublin census. 

I need to prove either way if there was a Julius or a Tobias living at this address after or before the 1901 census.  IF his name was Julius then I'm wondering if he was a brother to the Tobias Freedman whose DC I have at this same address & who died aged 72 in 1902.

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 00:31 BST (UK) »
First complete census for Ireland is 1901 - it and 1911 are online (free):
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 08:25 BST (UK) »
I had a look in Thom's directory of 1894, and there's no street listing for an Emorville Square - just an Emorville Avenue with 35 houses, none of which have the surname Freedman. It's described as being '... off South Circular Road, near Clanbrassil Street'  An Emorville terrace is mentioned in the index as being near the same location, but no further details are given.

There are no Freedman entries in the 1894 trades index. 

Thom's 1914 includes a listing for the location  as follows :

  Emorville square

  South Circular Road, near Clanbrassil Street'

  1  Mr. Thomas Baker
  2  Albert O'Brien
  3  Mr. R. Epstein
  4  Mr. S.H. Reynolds - contractor

The 1911 census shows the following surnames at the location (see Emorville Sq) :

  1  Baker
  2  Bridger / O'Brien
  3  Epstein
  4  Berjin / Reynolds


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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 10:24 BST (UK) »
I have a Jacob Freedman living in 6 King Street North listed as a Hardware Merchant in 1881.

Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
Breen: Hendrick Street, Brunswick Street,Dublin
Moore: Kildare and Dublin
lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
Donnelly: Marrowbone lane, Braithwaite street, Dublin
Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
Donegan, St Catherines Parish, Dublin
Murphy: Enniscorthy and Ballybanoge, Wexford
Browne, Crean, Kelly, Keavney: Sligo.


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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 10:59 BST (UK) »
aghadowey & Shane I would like to thank you both for your help.  It's my first search into Ireland so I'm not sure what's available.  Thank you.

On the 1901 census, it lists:-
Phinchas Maslisnsky Head aged 26 male Drapers Pedlar married Russia
Florrie Maslisnsky Wife aged 24 Housekeeper married Russia
Sarah Maslisnsky daughter aged 1 Female Born Dublin City
Abraham Maslisnsky son aged 2 months Male Born Dublin City
Julius (or Tobias) Freedman aged 65 boarder married
Faiga Freedman aged 64 boarder married


I'm not having much look finding this freedman family before or after this 1901 census.  But, I've learnt that 2 month old Abraham Maslisnsky went to the USA when he grew up & changed his name to Ben Maslan.  I've found one of his descendants who is a Rabbi in Texas. I don't know if this Freedman family were related to the Maslisky family or just boarding with them, my contact, the Rabbi in Texas is making enquiries with the older members of his family.

Thank you for this info, I'll try to find Julius & Faiga's deaths.  

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 11:10 BST (UK) »
I have a Jacob Freedman living in 6 King Street North listed as a Hardware Merchant in 1881.



Hi Ambyrne,

Do you mean this Jacob Freedman is part of your tree ?  If so, could there be any link to this Freedman family ?  I'm researching Tobias Freedman & trying to find a link to what looks like Julius/Julia Freedman (Male) aged 65 & Faiga Freedman (Female) aged 64 on the 1901, boarding with the Maslisnsky family at 2, Emorville Square, Dublin. 

I'm also researching this Freedman family:-


Family Nş 1, are  2 brothers:
Aaron Marcus Freedman: born 20/5/1872.  Date of file Jun 1902.
Between Oct 1896-Mar 1901  he lived at:  102 Lower Clanbrassil St Between March-1901-June 1902 he lived at:  5 Lombard St West. Born Russian Empire- Weksna/Meksna, Kovno
Parents:  Daniel and Libe Freedman, both Russian.
Married - 2 children:  Tobias, 2  and Flora Gerta 6 mths
Occupation: Draper

Family Nş 2.  We also found Nat Records at Kew for:-
Isaac Freedman, born 10/3/1854 in Smeksna, Kovno, Russia. (Date of Nat File 1892)
Isaac lived (Between Mar 1891-Apr 1892) at: 37, Lombard St West, Dublin  (same street & same time as "Aaron, Marcus Freedman" Lived there)
Isaac's Parents are "Tobias and FEGE Freedman"  both of  Russian Nationality.

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A descendant of family Nş 1 lives in Melbourne & a descendant of Nş 2 lives in Tel Aviv.  The Tobias aged 2 years went to South Africa & one of his descendants became Mayor of Johannesburg. 

We feel strongly that all these Freedman's are linked & we are researching all of these Freedman's & would be interested in exchanging info with anyone connected to these families. 

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 13:22 BST (UK) »
No Sorry... maybe it was a little misleading the way i phased the sentence... No i just found Jacob on the Slaters directory.. Sorry for getting your hopes up...
Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
Breen: Hendrick Street, Brunswick Street,Dublin
Moore: Kildare and Dublin
lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
Donnelly: Marrowbone lane, Braithwaite street, Dublin
Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
Donegan, St Catherines Parish, Dublin
Murphy: Enniscorthy and Ballybanoge, Wexford
Browne, Crean, Kelly, Keavney: Sligo.

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 13:53 BST (UK) »
No Sorry... maybe it was a little misleading the way i phased the sentence... No i just found Jacob on the Slaters directory.. Sorry for getting your hopes up...

Ahhh, that's OK. Thanks for your help.  I've checked thru the 1901 & 1911 & BMD's, but can't find any Julius/Julia Freedman.  If I could find his death, it would prove he was a different person to the Tobias who died in 1902 & it wasn't a mistake.  I can't find Faiga's death either.  Maybe they left Ireland.

Thanks for your help

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Re: Jewish Ancestors in Dublin
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 17:02 BST (UK) »
Harry,

"off South Circular Road, near Clanbrassil Street'  An Emorville terrace" This area is right beside the old Jewish Synagouge in Dublin, it is actually the Jewish Musuem now i think. It is a couple of minutes walk... It looks like most of the Jewish people got buried in

BALLYBOUGH JEWISH CEMETERY
Caretaker - tel. +353 1 836 9756

You could try these or contact the Jewish Rabbi's themselves who might be able to help.

Check out this URL http://www.jewishireland.org/contact.html



Wilson: Kirkoswald, Scotland and Dublin
Breen: Hendrick Street, Brunswick Street,Dublin
Moore: Kildare and Dublin
lyons: Hendrick Street and Brunswick Street,Dublin
Donnelly: Marrowbone lane, Braithwaite street, Dublin
Byrne: Mercer Street, Dublin
Mills: Dublin, Wicklow
Higgins: Dublin
Gray: Aryshire, Scotland
Mills King, Wicklow and Dublin
Donegan, St Catherines Parish, Dublin
Murphy: Enniscorthy and Ballybanoge, Wexford
Browne, Crean, Kelly, Keavney: Sligo.