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Henry NEWSON decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« on: Sunday 15 November 09 23:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello Pals,

Can any kind soul help a cousin in NZ find the true origins of her Gt Gt Grandfather above.

There was some family connection with Ligthouses or similar and possibly with Harwich (albeith in Essex!)

His dad may have been a Thomas Newson? Dad may have married twice and son left UK for NZ in about 1858, possibly originally bound for Oz.

There may be a connection with th surname Watt as well but its all a touch confused.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Colin
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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 16 November 09 00:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Did he die in NZ?  If he died after 1875 - the death cert will have his parents names including his mothers maiden name

The 1841 census has 3 entries in Suffolk for a Henry Newson b 1839-1841 - none of whom had a father called Thomas or a connection to lighthouses.

No entries for Essex
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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 16 November 09 02:21 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Carole

Sadly his D C does not have his mothers name on it!

Our enquiries this AM suggest he may have been the son of Thomas and Jane and his father was a Coastguard and lived in Felixstowe.

His DC  says he was born in Woodbridge. From his DC we can only estimate birth at 1840 it could be a year either side.

Does that open any of the 3 records you found on the 1851?

 Colin
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PENTLAND in Warks/Staffs/Yorks, Arm IRL: Chch NZ post 1884 and SCO pre 1800.
COLLINS aka COLLERIN , GALLAGHER & COX [RC] Highgate, Small Heath, Birmingham 1840-, Mayo IRL bef.
FRYER/FRIAR Lurgan Armagh, Edin & Glasgow SCO
BROOKES WH & WFP RA WW1 & 2
NEWSON & 'WATTS' Felixstow SFK, NZ,
HORTON, Surgn  Warwicks. FORTESCUE
PARKER, Charles, 1800-1853 Milit.Ornament Manuf. Aston, Gravelly Hill, Birmingham,

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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 16 November 09 06:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi Colin,
I may have found something .
Maybe a possibility as names sort of match.
Felixstowe is in the Woodbridge reg district.

1841 Census
East End,
Felixstow, Suffolk
HO107/1021/3/Felixstow

Henry NEWSON (Jnr or Snr), 25, Mariner
Sarah Hewson, 20
HENRY Newson, 12mths
Sarah Hewson, 4mths
All born in County

On same page are lots of WATTS families including a Thomas Watts and wife Jane aged 50 and 45. He is a Mariner also.
Also a Thomas Newson and wife Jane age 24/19 with one child Elizabeth age 8mths.

I cant find a Marriage though for Henry and Sarah ???


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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 16 November 09 07:03 GMT (UK) »
From IGI at Familysearch;

Henry William NEWSON
Born 21 January 1840
Christened 26 July 1840, Felixstow, Suffolk, England
Parents HENRY and SARAH

Siblings;
SARAH, born 25 Jan 1841, christened 09 Oct 1842
JOHN, born 19 Sept 1842, christened 09 October 1842

There are others later but maybe to second wife. Will try and find family in 1851 Census to check.
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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 16 November 09 07:25 GMT (UK) »
It looks like Hnery only had one wife;

1851 Census
Felixstow, Suffolk
HO107/1801/346/5

Henry NEWSON, 40 Head, Mar, Pilot, born Felixstow, Sfk
Sarah, 33, Wife, Mar, born Walton, Sfk
HENRY, 11, Son, Unm, Scholar, born Felixstow
Sarah, 10, Daug, At Home, born Felixstow
John, 8, Son, At Home, born Felixstow
Maria, 6, At Home, born Felixstow
William, 2, Son, At Home, born Felixstow
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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 16 November 09 08:22 GMT (UK) »
This may be your lighthouse connection ???
Henry Snr is a Harbour Pilot.

1861 Census
Felixstow Ferry,
Fellixstow, Suffolk
RG9/1168/7/8

Henery (sic) NEWSON, 50, Head, Mar, Trinity Pilot, born Felixstow
Sarah, 45, Wife, Mar, born Walton
Sarah, 20, Daug, Unm, born Felixstow
William, 12, Son, Unm, Scholar born Felixstow
Edward, 2, Son, Unm, born Felixstow

Interestingly from 1841 Census Henry is deiscribed a Jnr.
Living near him in 1861 is Henery Newson, aged 72, Widower, former Mariner, born Orford, Sfk. Possibly his Father?

Christening;
Edward Newson, 07 August 1859, Felixstow. Parents Henry and Sarah

So Henry born 1840 has left home and I cannot find him on any other Census post 1851.

1871 Census
RG10/1758/7/5
Sarah Newson is aged, 54, a Widow, Annuitant, born Walton. Son William aged 20, Mariner, is at home with her.

Death;
Henry NEWSON
March 1871
Woodbridge 4a 441, Age 60 ( so born c 1811)

She appears on the 1881/1891/1901 Census. In 1901 she is age 82.
Death;
Sarah NEWSON
March 1907
Woodbridge 4a 702, Age 89

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Trish :)
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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 16 November 09 08:39 GMT (UK) »
IGI extracted record;
Henry NEWSON
Christened 10 August 1810, Felixstow, Suffolk
Parents, Henry NEWSON and Jane PASSIFUL

Marriage, Extracted;
Henry NEWSON/Jane PASSIFUL, 04 July 1810, Felixstow, Suffolk
Janes christening is on the IGI 1792, Felixstow

Submitted record has same christening date and parents but has info that it occured, St Peter St Paul Church
It also has he married Sarah ( Surname unknown) abt 1839, Walton, Sfk
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Re: Henry Newson decd NZ aged 80 in 1920 born Harwich?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 16 November 09 09:26 GMT (UK) »
After posting all of that I feel really silly as I forgot to ask what is on his Marriage Cert in NZ?


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