Windrigg Kirk, Dalton, Dumfriesshire

[balmoral2003]

sorry, I know nothing of Caerlaverock...

the other inscriptions, all these people seem to appear in this same tree on ancestry.co.uk, the one I cannot access.

[csc]

are you talking about alexander jardine grocer englis st dumfries  1851 census alexander 27 born lanarkshire janet 26 nr dumfries james 2      1848 marriage registered in dumfries and torthorwald 11/04/1848       janet death 1904janet mckenna or jardine widow of alexander jardine provisions 2 james mckenna grocer  father james hastie dec mother elizabeth hastie m/s graham dec address is stoop dumfries witness james rae grandson irish street dumfries csc

[balmoral2003]

It could be this Jardine...? Just that my FTM program showed that Mary and her daughters Henderson somehow have a link to this tree of Alexander...unfortunately cannot access it since my subscription expired...

[csc]

on the 1851 census janets parents are still alive her father is a weaver born dumfries abt 1795 her mother is supposed to come  from mouswald  i wonder why their marriage is reg botn torthorwald and dumfries  csc

[purplekat]

Hi Ingrid and csc

Just catching up with all the work you've been doing.  So it looks like my gggg grandmother, Mary Vivers is buried at Caerlaverlock, especially since one of her daughters is a Henderson.

I'll have to go and absorb all this info

Thanks

Jean 

[balmoral2003]

Hastings found this on Ancestry, the tree of Alexander Jardine, and ties in with the MI of csc:

Mary VIVERS b 1751 d 28 Oct 1830 Caerlaverock.  No father or mother. No spouse.
Children: Rachel HENDERSON 1792 - 25 May 1831  [No more}
Sarah HENDERSON 1793 Dalton - 25 Feb 1862 Racks.
Husband Robert HUTCHINSON b 5 June 1794 Mousewold d 22 April 1876 Racks
5 children: Elizabeth abt 1820 [no more], Robert 1826 d as infant 1 Feb, Francis 1826 d as infant,Kelwoodburn, Robert Francis 1826 - 16 Aug 1847 Caerlaverock,
William 1829 - 1 June 1832 Caerlaverock.

Apparently none of these appear to be connected to anyone else in the tree. Jean, is it Elizabeth who will be your great great etc. grandmother?

[balmoral2003]

Jean, silly me, just reading your old posts...it is Ann, Mary's daughter, you're related to.

And with csc's children's info, first son Thomas...second son Richard, wasn't it the custom in those days to call the first son after the father's father and the second son after the mother's father? Which ties in with my initial guess of Mary being Richard's daughter.

[purplekat]

Hi Ingrid

Yes there was a naming tradition which many families I've researched appear to have followed, there is so much info here I still need to absorb who's who     but there seems to be a possibility that the Mary in the inscription is 'my' Mary on the basis that she has two Henderson daughters and is the right age to be Ann Henderson's mother.

If she is 'my' Mary Vivers then my ggg grandmother Ann Henderson would be a sister to Rachel and Sarah and an aunt to Sarah's children but unfortunately there is no proof of this.  I suppose a lot depends on how unusual the name Vivers would have been in the area during the late 18th and early 19th centuries.  I know I have no proof but maybe all this info will lead me to some eventually!

Jean  

ps I'm assuming that Sarah married Robert Hutchison

[balmoral2003]

Hi Jean

yes, the name Vivers was very unusual, and it was Richard who brought the name up from England to Scotland. It is still unusual, apparently there is only one Vivers per million people