Hugh GAFFNEY Tasmania

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Can any one help with some questions.  I have on on the Gaffney's in tasmania.

1. I have found a son in  john francis Gaffney's will that i did not find in the indexes. was Phillip Patrick   Gaffney born after 1900.
2. I was told that at least 1 or 2 of the spouse's married 3 or 4 times, no idea if true. no idea who. again cant find anything in indexes.
3. One of the lady's married one of the men who started the Mount Lyall Copper Mine .

Deb

Birth of Phillip Patrick Gaffney:

GAFFNEY Phillip Patrick b. 16/03/1903 at Strahan, TAS. #4260

Parents are John Francis Gaffney & Catherine Alice Dwyer


Do you have any other names you would liked checked in the indexes?

[kwhite6]

Hi Robbie,
It was also my understanding that the two Gaffney families were unrelated but lived close by each other which was the source of a great deal of confusion, especially as both families were quite large. However, on Francis Gaffneys convict record it does list a brother "Michael" and three sisters at home with his parents back in Ireland. There could possibly be a connection which might be worth exploring. Do you know the specifics of Michaels robbery charge??? Hugh and Francis were convicted for stealing guns. I also know that Hugh could read and write and was better educated than most convicts. I assumed their crimes may have been politically motivated. However, I don't have access to their trial records. I think they may have been destroyed.
regards
Kate

[regross]

Hello,

Irish transportation records here
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/search/index.php?category=18
your Gafney men and several other Gaffney as well

And a 1821 census for Cavan here :
http://www.cmcrp.net/OtherCty/index.html
Some Gaffney but very limited transcription.

regards

Robyn

[redmr2red]

Thanks Robyn, two very interesting Web Sites.

I can't find Hugh Gaffney born around 1814 and trasported 1842, so I should expect to find him in the 1821 Census for Co. Cavan.  However if his brother Francis WAS born in Co. Limerick around 1821, it possible we would find him there.

Is there a similar Census for Co. Limerick?

Kevin

[regross]

Well I have very limited experience with Irish records, all the persons I am tracing were in Australia by 1850 and born 1790-1830 and I haven't beenable to trace themin Cavan or Tyrone at all.

All I have is sites I have looked at and some links are now not working.

The Irish resources board may be helpful
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,385.0.html

and perhaps on teh Cavan board there start a topic with a link to this one.

regards
Robyn

[johnfischer66]

My Great-Great grandfather was named Francis Gaffney. he died in 1899 at the age of 79 in Garrymore, County Cavan, Ireland. This is just outside Ballinagh (Bellenanagh) not far from Cavan Town in County Cavan. I don't know much about him, other than he married a woman named Margaret Conlon. His son Patrick, born in 1866 was may great grandfather. Perhaps he is the elusive Francis? I understand that Francis did leave Tasmania.

[redmr2red]

Hi Johnfisher66, WOW 5 years later!!  What I now know (believe) about Francis Gaffney is that he was born in Co. Cavan in 1821.  He had six siblings, Hugh (Tasmanian convict also), Michael, Rose, Ann, Mary and Biddy.  His parents were James & Catherine Gaffney.  I have him leaving Tasmania aboard the "Spartan" bound for San Fancisco 5 May 1850. I have nothing for him after that.  It is quite possible that he returned to Ireland and most likely would have never mentioned his convict past. If any of the above fits, it would be great to investigate further.

[johnfischer66]

Well - it is possible.  Went through a few old notes. I know my Francis had a sister Bridget - that would coincide with your Biddy. He had two sons named Patrick and Eugene - both stayed in Ireland. I know he had other sons in Anerica. My problem is that I find it hard to believe that he would have emigrated back to Ireland. In 1850 San Francisco was booming with gold rush pioneers while Ireland was in the middle of a famine. I will look some more and let you know. I doubt your Limerick Gaffney is correct. There would be very little reason for Gaffneys born in Limerick to move to Cavan.

[johnfischer66]

I found a Hugh and Francis Gaffney in the 1821 Census in Legwee, County Cavan. This is about two miles from the Francis Gaffney that is my g-g-grandfather, so they might be the same? There is a brother John.