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Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« on: Thursday 10 December 09 23:18 GMT (UK) »
Alice Angelique/Angeline/Angelika Phillips was born in Peckam Rye, Camberwell, London at the end of 1874. I know her father was Henry Phillips but I suspect that he died in March 1881. I can't find Alice in the 1881 census. I would like to find out about her parents. Perhaps Henry and his wife might show up in the 1871 census in the Peckham area. Can anyone help?

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #1 on: Friday 11 December 09 00:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

Do you have her birth certificate with both her parents names on? 

If you have her marriage what was Henry's occupation?

I can see her with her husband in 1901 where she gives her birth place as Peckham Rye.

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #2 on: Friday 11 December 09 10:21 GMT (UK) »
Alice married Charles Ash and then William Bryan. I obtained the information of her father from a biography of William Bryan which described her as 'od' of Henry Phillips. I'm not sure whether od was a misprint or possibly stood for orphaned daughter. Sorry I don't know any more. I note that there is a record on FreeBMD of the death of a Henry Phillips aged 42 in the Camberwell district in the first quarter of 1881.

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #3 on: Friday 11 December 09 11:08 GMT (UK) »
Hi Phil

I can see possibles in the census returns but without more concrete evidence I cannot be sure if I have the right person.

If it is possible I would buy her birth certificate to get the names of her parents or even one of her marriage certificates. That would give you more to go on.

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #4 on: Friday 11 December 09 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi all  :)

There's a 5 Apr 1878 christening (doesn't show birth date unfortunately) at Saint Mark Kennington   

Alice Angelika Phillips, dau of Morris Samuel and Natalie Phillips of 160 ?Buster? Rd, father a fur merchant deceased 

(christened the same day: Herbert Edward Phillips, same parents' details)

Morris Samuel's death is registered in Sep 1877 Camberwell
 "My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"  

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #5 on: Friday 11 December 09 11:39 GMT (UK) »
Maybe?

1891
RG12/461 48 30
Camberwell, London
Dulwich
Elmwood The Avenue

Julius Warburg, head, 51, Stock Broker, b. Germany (British Subject)
Wilhelmine, wife, 45, b. London Lambeth
Herbert Phillips, nephew, 18, Stock Jobber's Clerk, b. Camberwell
Alice Phillips, niece, 16, b. Camberwell
 "My dear, I think the English pronounce it 'appiness"  

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #6 on: Friday 11 December 09 11:52 GMT (UK) »
Hmm - I was just looking at that one too, Tati  :D
Julius' bride was Wilhelmina Jacoby PHILLIPS

Married Sep Q 1864 Newington

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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 December 09 11:58 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Ambly  8)

Wilhelmina has a brother Morris born London age 7 on the 1851 census HO107/1568 281 14

I'm struggling to find Morris' marriage or anything about Natalie ... 
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Re: Alice Angelique Phillips b. Camberwell 1874 Look-up please..
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 December 09 12:09 GMT (UK) »
me to.....  :(     odd, with such distinct names

Morris Samuel PHILLIPS was umnarried in 1871, a commercial traveller, Lodger/Boarder age 25 b London

RG10 /  Piece: 677 /  Folio: 8 /  Page: 7 / 

(in the Kennington area of Lambeth  too)

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