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Offline Bo

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Birth Record
« on: Monday 04 January 10 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help please with locating birth record of Hamilton Edgar, possibly Glasgow circa 1889.  I know his father is William but don't know his mother's name.  Any help greatly appreciated.  :)

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #1 on: Monday 04 January 10 23:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi Bo

You would have to buy some credits for Scotlands People to be able to view a copy of the birth record - there's an entry as follows:

Hamilton Edgar     1888    St. Rollox, Glasgow City, Lanark    ref.644/06 0168

Had an odd credit remaining but you need 5 to view the certificate.

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #2 on: Monday 04 January 10 23:55 GMT (UK) »
I think that Hamilton Edgar's father may be Robert, from 1891:

Robert Edgar 29, Furnace Man Iron Wks b. Ireland
Elizabeth Edgar 24
Robert Edgar 6
James Edgar 5
Hamilton Edgar 3

Address: 1 Westerhill St, St Rollox Glasgow

There is only that entry and then closest is born in 1882 (father also called Hamilton) in all of Scotland.

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #3 on: Monday 04 January 10 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Same family for 1901, again the only obvious household:

Robert Edgar 48, Furniceman b. Ireland
Elizabeth Edgar 37
Robert Edgar 17
James Edgar 16
Hamilton Edgar 14
Mary Edgar   9
Martha Edgar 7
Sarah Edgar 5
Jane Edgar 3
Elizabeth Edgar 1

Address: 157 Petershill Rd, Dennistoun Glasgow

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you both so much for quick reply.  I'm not sure this is my man but I will assess what you have given me and get back to you so - it might take wee while as I'm juggling home, work etc.  I really appreciate your help - this is the first time I have started down the Scottish route and didn't know where to start.  Speak to you again soon  :)

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 17:10 GMT (UK) »
Hi all again.  I think my Hamilton Edgar was actually born about 1881 - sorry, got my dates wrong.  He had a brother Archibald who may also have been born in Scotland and sisters Martha and 'Jinty' (Jane/Janet?). Another brother is William born about 1896/7.  

I believe the family lived Belfast prior to 1901 but I haven't been able to find any info on the scant 1901 census just yet.  I know Hamilton Edgar married in Belfast 1903.  I'm trying to find their mother's maiden and christian names and whether she and William Snr were Scottish.

Thank you again in anticipation  :)

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Bo, Hamilton's birth was in 1881 (nov. 11th). Father William John, a boiler maker's labourer and mother Elizabeth Miller. His birth was in Springburn, Dennistoun.

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 18:47 GMT (UK) »
Scottish birth certs from early 1860s include date and place of parents' marriage. William and Elizabeth's marriage shows as July 1881 in Glasgow. If you have a look at the image of the marriage entry on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, the official pay to view site for BMDs and on line images, the marriage cert. will include full details on William and Elizabeth's parents, including mothers' maiden names which will the let you work back to their families.

If you remember in the earlier post on possible census entries, there was another Hamilton Edgar showing as born in 1882 in Dennistoun. I am wondering whether this household and the head, Hamilton Edgar, might be related to your William Edgar (perhaps father & son/ brothers?) Details very similar. This is their household entry for 1891:

Hamilton Edgar 49, labourer (boilermakers) b. Ireland
Agnes Edgar 38, b. Coatbridge, Lanark
Andrew Edgar 25 b. Ireland
James Edgar 21 b. Ireland
Bruce Edgar 11 b. ireland
Hamilton Edgar 9 b. Springburn, Lanark
Agnes Edgar 5 b. Springburn, Lanark
Helen Edgar 3 b. Springburn, Lanark
Charles Edgar 3 Weeks b. Glasgow
James Adams 47, boarder b. Glasgow

Address: 3 Reid St, Dennistoun Glasgow

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Re: Birth Record
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 05 January 10 19:45 GMT (UK) »
My money is on father and son  ;) 1881 census entry for Hamilton Edgar and wife Agnes:

Hamilton Edgar 45, Boilermakers Labourer b. Ireland
Agnes Edgar 28 b. Coatbridge, Lanarkshire
William Edgar 22, general labourer b. Ireland
Andrew Edgar 14 b. Ireland
Jane Edgar 16 b. Ireland
James Edgar 10 b. Ireland
Hannah Edgar 8 b. Ireland
Bruce Edgar 2 b. Springburn

Address: 1 Union Pl. Petershill Rd., Dennistoun Glasgow

A further submitted entry on IGI gives Hamilton Snr's death as 22 FEB 1922 Springburn, Lanark and first wife's name as Martha McTeer, marriage c. 1858

Perhaps with the age of Agnes, wife, above, unlikely she was William's mother and father Hamilton may have remarried?

There is a submitted entry on IGI at www.familysearch.org for Hamilton Snr.'s marriage I think:

Hamilton Edgar:   
Parents: William Edgar and Isabella Mirrow    
Marriage: Agnes Roy on 22 MAY 1877 in Hillhouse, Springburn, Lanark

Again, the marriage entry on Scotlands People, will let you confirm details.

There's more submitted entries on IGI for the children of Hamilton and Martha back in Co. Down Ireland.

Bo, would be worth you verifying some of the info here and then moving on from there  :)

Monica

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