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Clara MILLMAN
« on: Monday 11 January 10 14:23 GMT (UK) »
William George Lavers married Clara Millman, aged 21 on 24 Dec 1892 in Plymouth. Her father was given as John Millman, Labourer.
The Lavers side,  I have all the info I need.
Clare Millman, however.............. ???

1901 gives Gunnislake, Cornwall and 1874 as birthplace and date.
1911 gives Calstock and 1872.

There is a Clara Millman born in 1870 in Lidford (reg in Tavistock) who's father is given as John, Carpenter. Mother Mary Ann.
In 1901, she however appears to be still with her mother and unmarried

Where is my Clara's birth; in 1880; in 1891? (or have I missed something obvious :P)

Any info MUCH appreciated.

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Re: Clara Millman
« Reply #1 on: Monday 11 January 10 15:18 GMT (UK) »
What were the witness names? And her address in 1892?
"John Millman" might have been her stepfather, not father, or she might have been illegitimate and he's her grandfather or other relative.

Remember that "21" was "of full age", the age on the marriage certificate might be more convenient than accurate. ;)

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/
 - a "Clara Milman" was christened in Calstock, 9 Aug 1872, mother "Eliza" (St Ann's Gunnislake), no father given.
There are also three "Milman" children all christened in 1867 (but probably born separately) with parents John and Eliza.

I think in 1871 this might be the "Eliza Mil(l)man" in Calstock listed as married but husband not in household, two children, Anne (Elizabeth Ann at baptism?) and William (William Henry), with her. They're here in 1861:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/61462a.html
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Re: Clara Millman
« Reply #2 on: Monday 11 January 10 15:58 GMT (UK) »
That's more that I've found!!  8)

Witnesses were William George Webb and Amelia Lavers (William's sister).
Clara's address is given as "High Street", presumably Plymouth  ???

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Re: Clara Millman
« Reply #3 on: Monday 11 January 10 17:37 GMT (UK) »
I am thinking as a possiblity, "Clara Davey" on 1881 with widowed mother Eliza (both b. Calstock), and two sons (George, 18, John, 16)

There is a 1876 marriage for "Roger Davies" and "Eliza Millman" in Stoke Damerel district

"Roger Davy" appears on 1861 in Calstock with a wife Sarah, Harriet, 2, and Emily J, 1.  He was aged 32, b. Morchard Bishop.
By 1871 there is "Sarah Davey" with Harriet, 12, Emily J, 11 George H, 8, John, 6, and Mary, 4, living in North Tawnton.
By 1881 Sarah appears to have married Joseph Luxton, Mary shown in 1871 as a "Davey" is now "Mary Ann Luxton", there is another son Samuel, but Harriet the eldest daughter is listed as "Harriet Davey", Joseph's stepdaughter.
Joseph White Luxton and Sarah Davey marry in 1884.

(tangled webs, indeed!)

It's not clearly whether or not Roger might have been Clara's birth father. Also, I still can't spot an actual birth registration for her; it's possible they managed to avoid it.  There are a couple of William G. Webb's in the 1891 census but no obvious family connection.
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Re: Clara Millman
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 January 10 19:50 GMT (UK) »
:o AHHHHH!

I'll put a fresh brain on tomorrow to try and sort that lot.

Many thanks though :)

Mike

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Re: Clara MILLMAN
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 April 16 06:38 BST (UK) »
William George Lavers married Clara Millman, aged 21 on 24 Dec 1892 in Plymouth. Her father was given as John Millman, Labourer.
The Lavers side,  I have all the info I need.
Clare Millman, however.............. ???



Hi Mike,

Just researching a branch of my family & needing info on both Lavers and Millman (Stuck on William George Lavers) b c1874. If you would be able to help it would be much appreciated. ;D

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Re: Clara MILLMAN
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 April 16 07:53 BST (UK) »
Mr Lavers first name varied between William and George in the censuses. He was George on his daughter Elsie's (1897) WedCert. (and that's what I've used!).
I have him born in 1872, in Plymouth, to Richard Lavers (1839, Plymouth) and Emma, ne Lewis (1844, Plymouth) who were married on 16 December 1864 at Parish Church of Sutton on Plym, Plymouth. They had nine children, six still Living in 1911.
The Lavers I've traced back to 1702 (hopefully  :P). The Lewises not so far.

Clara was the daughter of John (1830, Lewtrenchard,Devon) and Eliza Eastman (1833, Exeter). The were married on 8 December 1855 at Tavistock Register Office.
I have both those lines going back a few generations.

I think that's enough to be going on with.


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Re: Clara MILLMAN
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 April 16 08:56 BST (UK) »
Can I clarify if one of the Clara & George Lavers children was Cecile Leonard?

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Re: Clara MILLMAN
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 09 April 16 10:35 BST (UK) »
From the 1911 census, I have a Leonard aged 61/2 months.
But going by the BMDs he was probabley Cecil Leonard b Q4 1910 cos I can find a Cecil Lavers in 1911.