Marriage for Nobles/Sandilands.

[Garnet]

I am unable to find details of the marriage between
George Nobles and Mary Jane Sandilands.  They lived in Hampstead.  The marriage would have taken place around 1871/1872.  George was a widower in 1871 and Mary Jane was still single then.  She was Scottish but I cannot find the record on Scotlands People.

Many thanks, Garnet.

[jennifer c]

Hi Still single in 1871 census. Both working at the same house The Heathlands North End Road Hampstead  RG10/191/fol 5

Mary Jane Sandilands serv  21 Nursemaid born Scotland
George Nobles  head 37 wid Coachman born Sharnbrook Beds
Mary Ann dau 9 Hampstead
Jane Mary serv 14  domestic Sharnbrook
Samuel serv 29 Groom Sharnbrook

1891 106/77  The Heathlands Stables

 Head of main household Hugh M Matheson East India Merchant born Scotland
There seems a strong Scottish theme going on . Houses either side are owned by scots!

George Nobles 55 Groom Sharnbrook Beds
Mary Jane 41 Scotland
Mary Jane 18 Kitchenmaid
Walter 17 gardiner
Sarah 13
Alice Ada 11
All children given as born Hampstead

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

1901 census   121/fol 8

Sarah Nobles 23 Nurse born Hampstead Serv in the house hold of a Scottish Presbyterian minister 8 Thurlows Road Hampstead

1901 census 81/fol 56

Mary Jane Noble 28 Cook Thomas's Hotel 25 Berkley Square born Hayton near East Carlise Cumberland

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

1881 census RG11/3/50  12 Clarendon Street

Samuel Noble 44 Coachman  Sharnbrook Beds
Charlotte 37 Hindon
Mary 8 St.Pancras
Florence 6 Paddington
Kate 1 month Paddington

A Samuel Noble married a Charlotte Thurlow June qtr 1873 Kensington. If this is George's brother his marriage would give father's name.

Jennifer

[Eyesee]

Samuel's father is given as James NOBLE, labourer. Marriage was at St Michael & All Angels, Ladbroke Grove, 1 Jun 1873.

Ian C

[jennifer c]

Hi Ian, It looks as though they may have been cousins. IGI bap. Samuel bap 16/7/1837 parents James & Elizabeth -                     

George 14/7/1833 parents John & Elizabeth.

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Hi, 1861 census RG9/92/fol  87  Heathlands Stables Hampstead

George Nobles 26 wid Coachman Sharnbrook Beds
George 6 son                                       "
Elizabeth 5 dau                                   "
Ann 18 sister  gen. serv.                     "

A George Nobles married Bedford Dec. qtr 1852 Bedford brides could be Sarah Smith or Sarah Ellis

Elizabeth Nobles reg. Bedford 1856 Mar qtr  would give mothers name if not already known.

Jennifer

[jennifer c]

Hi, very easy to go backwards, John Noble married Elizabeth Pacey 24/6/1827 Sharnbrook. But this does not help us find George & Mary Jane's marriage does it!!

Have you bought more than one birth certificate to check spelling of her name? I would have thought they would have to have got married as they worked at the same house.

Have you checked a marriage in Hampstead June qtr 1861 for a George Nobles only spouses shown are Mary Ann Gooch and Lucy Thomas.

Jennifer

[Garnet]

Thankyou everyone for your input.  I already have all the information you all so kindly gave.  It is the marriage details of George Nobles to Mary Jane Sandilands which I require and cannot find.

He married three times and I have all the relevant documents.  The mother's name given on all the birth certificates for the children of his third marriage is
Mary Jane Sandilands.  I have tried spelling variants, other districts etc to no avail.  I am beginning to wonder whether there was indeed a wedding but cannot reason why there might not have been.

Thanks again, Garnet.