update on this thread Maria mother of James Winfield Jordan death cert states she was 71 however burial info says 79 which is the right dates for all other data i have on her, buried beechworth in unmarked grave with a further interment of another in 1940, death cert mentions no children and only has married no further info on cert. james and ellen moved to Christchurch nz circa 1876 and had 2 more boys born nz. james and ellen are both buried in karori cemetery wellington nz, shipping data on james going to australia looks like the family or part of it travelled on the james baines arriving in melb 1856, his father looks as though he has been a transcribe error his Fathers name on marriage cert is thomas however on the shipping list its listed as M .. a case of scribble being deciphered wrong as it looks nothing like the M on the mrs jordan (his wife) below his listing, most of the riddle solved thanks to all that helped i just now need to track down several of james siblings
