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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 16:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi Nick,

I found 'a' Cowper (sic) Young b 1897 Sunderland

1901

Cooper (sic) Young (5 yrs) living at 79 Wear Street, Sunderland

Parents;

George, Head, M (Married) 37 (Plater in Ship Yard)
S, Wife, M, 37

Siblings;

John 16 (Butcher Apprentice)
George 14 (Painter Apprentice)
Thomas 11
Alice 8
Cooper 5
James 3
Edward 1

Annie

Added, Mother appears to be named Sarah Jane
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Thought I would add this as a potential relative given the unusual forename for other researchers;

This is not the 'C or Cooper Young' mentioned!

http://www.rnlisunderland.org/information/station_personnel/ex_-_station_coxswains/pg152.html

Scroll to near bottom of page (3rd block entry from bottom), "No 3 Station (South Pier)"


Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 16:38 GMT (UK) »
Can't say for sure this is the correct man but..

Cooper Young
Royal Field Artillery
Reg Number L/7712

(WW1 Medal Roll)

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 16:42 GMT (UK) »
Could this be him?

Marriage;

Cooper Young
Jul-Aug-Sep 1918
RD, Sunderland
County, Durham
Spouse, Florence M Noble
Vol No. 10a
Pg No. 1169

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"


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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 16:45 GMT (UK) »
Death;

Cooper Young
Birth abt 1895
Reg. Jun 1950
Age at Death 55
RD, Sunderland
County, Northumberland
Vol 1a
Pg 881

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 22 February 17 16:55 GMT (UK) »
At a later date Cooper Young was living at 9 Salesbury St, Sunderland & father deceased i.e. it's likely his mother's name would be on his attestation papers?

I haven't looked for her death.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 23 February 17 15:05 GMT (UK) »
It looks like the "Royal Tent" ceased being a public house before 1871.
In the 1871 Census 18 Warren Street was occupied by Jane Beacroft, a Boarding House Keeper.
In the 1881 Census 18 Warren Street was occupied by Robert Harrison General Dealer, in 1891 the property was occupied by two families, Robert Harrison's family in 4 rooms and Nicholas Young's family in 2 rooms.
This is the Young Family in the 1901 Census at 18  Warren Street
Nicholas Young    35
Mary Ann Young 36
Beatrice Mary Young 10
Nicholas Harrison Young 8
Thos Butler Young 4
Isabella Young    2
Charles Johnson Young    6/12
and this is the other family at 18 Warren Street
Mary Ann Butler 61
Elizabeth Butler 31 Daughter
Robert Harrison 60 Brother
Lily Young 12 Grand Daughter

So it looks as though the two families were related.

Stan
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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 23 February 17 16:21 GMT (UK) »
The death of Charles Johnson Young, age 75,  was registered in Sunderland in the Dec ¼ 1975.
In the 1914 Directory Elizabeth Butler is the shopkeeper.
Stan
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Re: 18 Warren Street, Sunderland, Public House "The Royal Tent"
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 25 February 17 15:15 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Rosinish and Stan your research has been most helpful!

Also stan's map showing the royal Tent on the same street as the king's head hotel all but confirms the street in the photo I provided is the right address.

It's about now linking the medal we have to Charles Johnson Young and his reasons for its award, and hopefully find if he was a crew member of the Avristan.

Stan, one last request if I may ask, if you can find a relation between Albert Young and Charles J. Young?

Jack Curtis informed me him and Albert were 10-11 years old when they knew each at the end of WWII in which the photo I showed was taken. Jack said he and Albert played cricket in the area in front of Warren Street which the photo was took.