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The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« on: Tuesday 19 January 10 16:59 GMT (UK) »
Just wondering if anyone can shed any light on the origins of this family. They apparently claimed to be Welsh, although the Welsh connection seems a bit ambiguous. The birth details of Phillip have come to me second hand and I haven't been able to verify them.

PHILLIP HARRIS b 1799 Gold Hill Monmouth , England a Porter
Mary Ann EAMES b Bristol in the parish of St Nicholas 1802 /6

CHILDREN
Charles b about 1829 painter & Glazier m Louisa HERRIDGE 1851
William b about 1831 a baker m Alice
Francis b about 1833 servant
Philip b about 1836 errand boy
Mary Ann b about 1838 died 1861 of cancer not married
John b 1841 emigrated to New Zealand m Elizabeth BURKE
Sarah b about 1844
Ann b about 1848

Monmouth is right on the English-Welsh border and at the time it was part of England. Monmouthshire was for a long time in a weird limbo between England and Wales, where you would get laws saying things like "this applies to Wales and Monmouthshire" or "this applies to  England and Monmouthshire", until in 1974 the government decided to stick it in with Wales once and for all.

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Re: The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 24 November 17 23:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi!

How bizzare, I'm a harris (grandfathers name) .... I have family in wales, but from what I know on my grandmothers side.

However what got my attention was NZ! I know roughly about my ancestors living in New Zealand and having a farm there. Burke seems strangely familiar............ not sure

More recently the Harris' had offices on king street back in the day. Even weirder is that I work there now (2017)

Found this trying to research Annie Oatway (my sister has the same name)

However much of a strange coincidence this is... still v.interesting.

 ;D

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Re: The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 25 November 17 07:42 GMT (UK) »

?

MonGenes

Baptism at Nash (which is 3 miles S by E of Newport, Monmouthshire)

Phillip HARRIS - 16 September 1798

parents: Charles  & Ann  (? family names)

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Re: The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 25 November 17 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Monmouth, and Monmouthshire, are in Wales ;D
Although confusingly, sometimes it was placed in England.

My mother was born in Monmouthshire - in a Welsh-speaking part of the county.

See: http://www.monmouth.org.uk/index.php/local/history/wales-or-england.html
and: https://www.jlb2011.co.uk/wales/mon.htm
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Re: The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 25 November 17 07:46 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat Jennie

Arwald has not been on here for a couple of years, hopefully they will get an email notifying them of your reply

Rosie
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Re: The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 25 November 17 07:48 GMT (UK) »

As Philip mentions Gold Hill

This could be the marriage of Philip's parents  - baptism given in previous reply

3 February 1796

at Nash

Charles HARRIS - residence: Goldcliff

Ann LEWIS - residence: Nash

witnesses: John LEWIS and Mary HARRIS

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Re: The HARRIS Family of 34 King Street, Bristol - originally Welsh?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 25 November 17 07:55 GMT (UK) »
From Free Reg :-  3 Feb 1796. Charles Harris (Goldcliffe) and  Ann  Lewis ( Nash) married St Mary, Nash.
Goldcliff south east of Newport on coast of Bristol Channel.

(Cape town got there fist!)