Bodlondeb, Trefriw

[FlowerBD20]

Does anyone know this address? Street or house name? On the chapel, church and census records as the abode/dwelling of my 3x greatgrandfather John Evans (quarryman) 1806/7 and his descendants.

[gortonboy]

a search for this name as an address on the 1841 census gives these results
 

street-----parish--registration district---county
 
Bodlondeb  Caerhun  Conway  Caernarvonshire 
Bodlondeb  Eglwys Fach  Llanrwst Union  Denbighshire 
Bodlondeb  Llandrillo-Yn-Rhos  Conway  Denbighshire 

[FlowerBD20]

In 1841 John Evans was living at Bodlondeb Trefriw. Does that info imply it is a house name and NOT a street?

[taidgazacaz]

If you give us a little more information about the family, i.e. names, dates, birthplace etc, we might be able to look at the censuses and work it out from there.

My inclination would be that it is a house name, as it is often used as such, the literal translation being "satisfaction" or "contentment".

Tecwyn.

[taidgazacaz]

Have just found your family in 1841 census; Bodlondeb's almost certainly a house name as all the others around it are different.

Note that the house next door but one is called "Ty'n y Fynwent", which translates as "House in/by the graveyard". I don't know where the church is in Trefriw and cannot find a photo of it on Genuki, but I'd guess that Bodlondeb is, or was, somewhere nearby.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/CAE/Trefriw/  has some interesting links.

Tecwyn.

[FlowerBD20]

Thankyou for helping me again! I knew the lovely translation of Bodlondeb but the house next door gives a clue that I will follow up. Anyone out there know if there is or was a Bodlondeb near to a graveyard in Trefriw?

[DdraigGoch]

Hi

I live in Trefriw and have been doing a bit of searching for you. I have in my possesion a copy of the Sale of Gwydyr Estates 1896. In here it says that in 1896 that Bodlondeb came under LOT 159. The following is what is written about it:

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LOT 159
BODLONDEB

The well secured Freehold Ground Rent of S13 per annum upon the Villa, Garden, and Premises known as "Bodlondeb" in the Village and Parish of Trefriw.

Held on lease granted to Mr. David Evans, with reversion to the rack rent of the property in May, 1938.
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This place has now been split into 3 houses which are now called Hillcrest 1 and 2, and Casita. If you do a search on Google for 2 Hill Crest, Trefriw it looks like the house was up for sale a couple of years ago.

Hope this helps

Haydn

[FlowerBD20]

Hi Haydn, Thankyou SO much, that was fantastic!! So not a tiny cottage then, I underestimated tha family income because John and Mary Evans appear to have no gravestones in St Mary's even though they are in the burial register there. David Evans was their son and he is on the census after their deaths as the head of household. Wow! I'm gobsmacked that you would do that research for me! Thanks again, Flower.

[DdraigGoch]

Hi Flower

No problem at all. I am always happy to help. When you say there is no Gravestone for them at St Mary's Church, could they not be buried in the public Graveyard up on Cowlyd road?

When did they die?

Don't hold me to this but I think that graveyard opened up in the late 1880's. Probably when the St Mary's Graveyard filled up.

Haydn