a distillery in ?? clonmel

[beansgram]

hi chatters this is my first post to the irish boards and i am not sure where

clonmel is or if the name was butchered by the person who sent it to me.  i am

looking for info on a distillery that a scot named john nairne/nairn helped start. 

where is it eaxctly, who helped him, did he stay in ireland and if so did he marry

 there and have children.  he is proving very illusive as all we know about him is

he was born in scotland in 1776 served in the navy on the hms alfred and

 went to ireland to help with this brewery.  we have no trace of him after that

any help would be appreciated.  there is a post on the clack board for info but i do not know how to attach a link.  thanks for any help

beans

[HugoBeauchamp]

Might be worth Googling "distilleries clonmel", I did and one site might help you .......

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=64156109

HB

[Oaks and Acorns]

Hi beans,

Welcome to the Irish section.

Clonmel is indeed a place in Ireland (in Co. Tipperary actually) and has a long history of brewing and distilling. Your post is a little confusing as the title refers to a distillery while the body of your message refers to a brewery.

I tried a Google on "John Nairn" "Clonmel" and "brewery or distillery" and most of the results that came back were your posts on this site and others.

Perhaps if you requested that your post was moved to the Co. Tipperary board, someone with local knowledge migh be better able to assist you.

Dara.

[beansgram]

hi dara 

thanks for the reply sorry about the brewery it was a distillery joh nairn and 3 other scots immigrated to ireland to help setup this distilery

how do i get the moderator to move this to the board you metioned

beans

Moderator's Note: topic moved to TIPPERARY board

[annclare]

Beans
Lewis' Topographical Dictionary of Ireland 1837 refers to an extensive distillery at Marfield near Clonmel that could be relevant.
http://www.from-ireland.net/wat/lewis/clonmel.htm

Also a little bit about Marfield on Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlfield,_Clonmel

May give some clues

regards
annclare

[annclare]

Another source that may be of help- List of distilleries liable for tax in Ireland and Scotland 1826-27. There are only four (including Marfield)
 that I can see listed for County Tipperary.

http://books.google.ie/books?id=xzZbAAAAQAAJ&pg=RA3-PA27&lpg=RA3-PA27&dq=andrew+Stein+Distillery&source=bl&ots=fPDI0znvEp&sig=SiQNIqioSBs9ABA7ETKt7Kn8w70&hl=en&ei=8fZlS7vFCJf-0gTHjpXHBg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CCAQ6AEwCQ#

annclare

[hallmark]

At the beginning of 19th century, the district of Clonmel gathered the highest concentration of whiskey distilleries in Ireland after Dublin,  about fifteen of them.

Try emailing one of them to see if they have the history of them in Clonmel.

http://www.celtic-whisky.com/clonmegb.htm has a contact address.

Hopefully you will be able to sample a Double at each one some lunchtime!!

[beansgram]

hi everyone thanks for the replies here is alittle more info 3 other scots went to ireland with john nairn

james mcqueen his brother in law john boyd his brother in law and john murray i dont know it he is

another brother in law or not all 4 men invested in and helped to start a distillery in marfield only three

stayed in the business.  john joined the navy and returned to scotland. 

beans

[Oaks and Acorns]

The Marlfield Distillery is generally accepted as having been founded by Andrew Stein, although later than your man's d.o.b would suggest.

There were many small distilleries in Clonmel and some of them were "not quite legal". Is there any chance he was a "moon-shiner"?

Dara.