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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #36 on: Monday 19 June 17 17:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Jon,

On the whole I believe the family where basically Protestant however the odd member seems to have been Catholic and several married in Registrar Offices.  Mind you if you split my family down to the four lines of my grandparents/great grandparents then you'll find a mixture of Protestant and Catholic and it would seem to be a family who changed circumstances to suit themselves.
I was always lead to believe they were Protestants but as I said I have come across those members that certainly weren't.
According to the marriage certificate I have, Jules Etienne Ambroise lepine married Alexandrine Maria Evrevin in the Catholic Chapel in Cornwall Place, Islington but of course, I have no way of knowing or rather I haven't come across anything to advise me as to which one of them was Catholic or if both were.
I have however just looked at the war records of several of his grandsons that lost their lives in the Great War and they have stated they were Church of England.
I have to admit at times they have proved to be very difficult to pin down and some have completely vanished probably because they perhaps started to spell Lepine differently.  Doesn't help, does it.
Regards Prue

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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #37 on: Friday 22 December 17 17:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jon,
     Have recently found you / site. Can you help on information regarding a GEORGE LEPINE b 1823 Boxley, Maidstone -  married ELIZABETH BARBARA DUNN b 1824.
    I have only just started my research into this family through WILLIAM ELLIOTT / ELIZABETH LEPINE marriage of Sept qtr 1874 St.Saviour,Walworth. ELLEN ELLIOTT b 1880.Their Daughter / my Grandmother.
 Any information that you can possibly help with, would be on GEORGE LEPINE b1823 parents STEPHAN LEPINE & his wife LUCY PAWLEY. I have them from on GEORGE LEPINE' S christening of JAN 1824.
 I have GEORGE'S history up to the 1881 Census.
 Any info. would be much appreciated.   
    Regards J.
   
   Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
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Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH

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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 27 December 17 22:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi J.

I do indeed have your George Lepine's ancestry and marriage in my study of the Lepine family.

Your line is therefore as follows:

Jehan de Lespine born before c1554 in La Gorgue, France

Their son Jaques de Lespine born before c1573 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601 married Catherine Delbeq

Their son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died 1655 married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in 1630.

Their son Jean Delepine/Lepine born Canterbury 1632 died 1710 married Marie Bonte in 1668

Their son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died 1754 married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in 1727

Their son Jean/John Lepine born Canterbury 1732 died 1804 married Mary Brett in 1761

Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died 1808 married Ann Beeching in 1790

Their son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1792 died 1861 married Lucy Pawley in 1812

Their son George Lepine born Boxley 1823 died 1886 married Elizabeth Barbara Dunn in 1850

Best wishes,
Jon

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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 28 December 17 16:10 GMT (UK) »
Jon,
   Many thanks for you answering to my enquiry.
Would I be right to assume  that the STEPHEN LEPINE b 1792 / d 1861 marriage to LUCY PAWLEY, that this marriage was his first aged 20. They married 25th Dec 1812. I have found another STEPHEN LEPINE marrying a MARY ALLEN 15/04/1827. I have not found a death certificate?? for LUCY. Marrying Mary I take it is his second wife?. Any help/info. on the above very much appreciated.
Best Regards, J
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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #40 on: Friday 29 December 17 01:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi J,

Here are some fuller details for your line with further information:

Jan/Jehan de Lespine born before c1548 in La Gorgue, France. He is presumably the Jan de Lespine who was granted permission to reside in Canterbury on 18 October 1583. Therefore he died after 1583.

His son Jaques de Lespine born before c1570 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601. He married Catherine Delbeq in Canterbury in 1591 and they had 4 daughters and 1 son. She was born in Sailly, France before c1573 and after Jaques' death remarried Francois de Richbourg in Canterbury in 1602.

His son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died Canterbury 1655. He married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in Canterbury 1630 and had 3 sons. She was born in Lille, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, and was the daughter of Charles de Bariselle and Eline. Jaqueline died in Canterbury in 1632 and after her death Jean remarried Susanne le Grand between 1632 and 1635 although I cannot find the marriage. Jean left a will and was buried in St Alphege, Canterbury. 

His son Jean Delepine/Lepine by is first wife born Canterbury 1632 died Canterbury 1710. He married Marie Bonte in Canterbury in 1668 and had 9 sons and 4 daughters. She was born in Canterbury in 1649 and was the daughter of Jean Bonte and Jeane Galman. She died in 1712. Jean was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.

His son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died Canterbury 1754. He was a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity administered by the French Church of London and is named in her will. He married as his first wife Marie Vendome in Canterbury in 1711 and had 4 sons & 3 daughters. She died in 1726. He married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in Whitstable in 1727 and had 3 daughters and 6 sons. Elizabeth died in 1746. Daniel was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.

His son Jean/John Lepine by his second wife born Canterbury 1732 died Maidstone 1804. He married as his first wife Mary Brett in Rochester, Kent, in 1761 and had 5 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1780 and he remarried widow Mary Walter in St Saviour Southwark, Surrey, in 1794. They had no children and she died in 1801 in Maidstone. John was an executor to the will of his brother Stephen in 1797 and became a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity in 1803.

His son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died Maidstone 1808. He married firstly Ann Beeching in Maidstone in 1790 and had 1 daughter and 2 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1795 and he then remarried Ann Danes in 1801 in Boxley. They had 2 daughters and 1 son. He was buried at All Saints Maidstone.

His son Stephen Lepine by his first wife born Maidstone 1792 died Maidstone 1861. He married firstly Lucy Pawley in Boxley in 1812 and had 4 sons and 1 daughter. She died in Boxley in 1825 and he then remarried Mary Allen in Boxley in 1827 and had 5 sons and 3 daughters. Probate was granted to two of his sons in 1861 with his effects valued at under £200.

His son George Lepine by his first wife born Boxley 1823 died 236 Walworth Road, Surrey, 1886. He married Elizabeth Barbara Dunn in Kennington, Surrey, in 1850.

Best wishes,
Jon

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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #41 on: Friday 29 December 17 08:03 GMT (UK) »
Jon,
   How / where and what words do I start with to thank you, firstly and mainly your knowledge and understanding of what family history is and what it holds for all of us individually. To me the patience that is needed to persist with family history, you must have in abundance, as a totally bottomless well. The amount of info. that you have put in front of me, is just unbelievable. Seeing what you have managed / knowledge of / supplied me with, I feel like I have suddenly been hit by a double-decker bus and hit by lighting,  -   I am totally gobsmacked by it all. I was just not expecting what you have supplied me with,  many, many thanks again.

Have a Happy New Year, make sure you celebrate well.

Best Regards to all your family,    J

   P.S.    -    Just out of curiosity how are we connected in the LEPINE line?.

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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 06 January 18 22:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi J,

Here are some fuller details for your line with further information:

Jan/Jehan de Lespine born before c1548 in La Gorgue, France. He is presumably the Jan de Lespine who was granted permission to reside in Canterbury on 18 October 1583. Therefore he died after 1583.

His son Jaques de Lespine born before c1570 in La Gorgue, France, died Cantebury 1601. He married Catherine Delbeq in Canterbury in 1591 and they had 4 daughters and 1 son. She was born in Sailly, France before c1573 and after Jaques' death remarried Francois de Richbourg in Canterbury in 1602.

His son Jan/Jean de Lespine born Canterbury 1594 died Canterbury 1655. He married as his first wife Jaqueline Bariselle in Canterbury 1630 and had 3 sons. She was born in Lille, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, France, and was the daughter of Charles de Bariselle and Eline. Jaqueline died in Canterbury in 1632 and after her death Jean remarried Susanne le Grand between 1632 and 1635 although I cannot find the marriage. Jean left a will and was buried in St Alphege, Canterbury. 

His son Jean Delepine/Lepine by is first wife born Canterbury 1632 died Canterbury 1710. He married Marie Bonte in Canterbury in 1668 and had 9 sons and 4 daughters. She was born in Canterbury in 1649 and was the daughter of Jean Bonte and Jeane Galman. She died in 1712. Jean was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.

His son Daniel Lepine born Canterbury, Kent 1687 died Canterbury 1754. He was a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity administered by the French Church of London and is named in her will. He married as his first wife Marie Vendome in Canterbury in 1711 and had 4 sons & 3 daughters. She died in 1726. He married as his second wife Elizabeth Broadstreet in Whitstable in 1727 and had 3 daughters and 6 sons. Elizabeth died in 1746. Daniel was buried at Holy Cross Church, Westgate, Canterbury.

His son Jean/John Lepine by his second wife born Canterbury 1732 died Maidstone 1804. He married as his first wife Mary Brett in Rochester, Kent, in 1761 and had 5 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1780 and he remarried widow Mary Walter in St Saviour Southwark, Surrey, in 1794. They had no children and she died in 1801 in Maidstone. John was an executor to the will of his brother Stephen in 1797 and became a recipient of the Jane Basse Charity in 1803.

His son Stephen Lepine born Maidstone 1767 died Maidstone 1808. He married firstly Ann Beeching in Maidstone in 1790 and had 1 daughter and 2 sons. She died in Maidstone in 1795 and he then remarried Ann Danes in 1801 in Boxley. They had 2 daughters and 1 son. He was buried at All Saints Maidstone.

His son Stephen Lepine by his first wife born Maidstone 1792 died Maidstone 1861. He married firstly Lucy Pawley in Boxley in 1812 and had 4 sons and 1 daughter. She died in Boxley in 1825 and he then remarried Mary Allen in Boxley in 1827 and had 5 sons and 3 daughters. Probate was granted to two of his sons in 1861 with his effects valued at under £200.

His son George Lepine by his first wife born Boxley 1823 died 236 Walworth Road, Surrey, 1886. He married Elizabeth Barbara Dunn in Kennington, Surrey, in 1850.

Best wishes,
Jon



Jon

Again thank you for all your info. -- On the above, would you be able to supply the details of the children from both the Stephen Lepine b1792 two marriages of Lucy Pawley and Married Allen ? Many thanks   J


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Wentzell CRIPPLEGATE/SOUTHWARK 1700-1960's
Sadler CAMBERWELL / LEWISHAM 1700 - 1960's
Elliott WALWORTH / 1700 -1960's
Lepine FRANCE/KENT/WALWORTH/1550's-1950's
Barnes DORSET / WALWORTH

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Re: LEPINE
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 06 January 18 23:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, pleased it was useful. I have been doing but became a one name study of the name Lepine for the past ten years so have looked at most of the lines to the mid nineteenth century.

Lots of people have researched the Lepine lines over the past two hundred years due to the great fortune of intestate lunatic Maria L'Epine who died in 1798. Lots of things became very confused as many Lepine descendants tried to make a claim on the money in Chancery.

However by the time the case came to court in 1927 (by someone allegedly on Maria's maternal line) the statute of limitations said that as it was over one hundred years since her death and there was nothing to answer to and the case was thrown out. Those who brought the claim (the Knight Masons) bankrupted themselves in the process. For many it became something of an obsession.

Anyway there was more than one Lepine who came to the UK from France over the years. Lepine or de l'Epine, Delepine, Lespine, Delespine and all its variants is not a rare name in France. You might know that it means 'Thorn' in English and this was sometimes used in records as well.

Your line came over to England in the late 1500s from La Gorgue and settled in Canterbury before various branches moved elsewhere. My line is actually different and they were from a family of the name name from Picardie and they were from an uncle and two nephews who came over to London from 1679 to 1730.

However due to the confusion in the lines, my ancestor Isaac Lepine (1750-1828) became a recipient of the Jane Basse charity which was really meant for the descendants of the Canterbury line.

I also know that Edward Lepine (1761-1822) who was the son of your John Lepine (1732-1804) was a shoemaker in London. Someone connected to the late mad Maria L'Epine saw the name and contacted him. He in turn came to visit my ancestral aunt Susanna Lepine/Hunter/Crawford/Boston (1727-1814) about the case and it was how my line found out about it. This is recorded in statements which survive relating to the case from 1805.

It is a fascinating line to research and will be surely be one of your most interesting lines.

Best wishes,
Jon

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« Reply #44 on: Sunday 07 January 18 01:09 GMT (UK) »
Jon

Again thank you for all your info. -- On the above, would you be able to supply the details of the children from both the Stephen Lepine b1792 two marriages of Lucy Pawley and Married Allen ? Many thanks   J

Here you go...

Children of Stephen Lepine (1792-1861):

With first wife Lucy Pawley\Lepine (1793–1825) who he married in 1812

1. Rev. Stephen Lepine (1813–1895)
2. William Lepine (1815–1815/29)
3. John Lepine (1818–1839)
4. Eliza Lepine (1820–?)
5. George Lepine (1823–1886)

With second wife Mary Allen\Lepine (c1801/2–?) who he married in 1827:

6. James Lepine (1827–aft 1861)
7. William Lepine (1829–?)
8. Edward Lepine (1832–?)
9. Marianne\Mary Ann Lepine\Dane (1834–?)
10. Robert Lepine (1836–1865)
11. Maria Lepine\Reynolds (1838–aft 1863)
12. Angelina Lepine (1842–1851)
13. Henry Lepine (1845–?)