charlton surname

[peter brownlee]

Skatt is a Scandinavian name. I think Swedish.
Peter

[morgany]

Thank you all so much for your help and pointers.  I have started again from Gladstone Charlton who was my friend's grandfather.  I have gone back to Thomas who apparently was born 1810 or 1811 and died in 1866.  I have got the list of his children and everything seems fine up to now.  It may be (as pointed out ) that Thomas was married twice, but I'll be honest, I'm not looking at that bit at the moment.  I have reached the proverbial brick wall as far as Thomas's father is concerned.  I am told that his father was William but that came from the submitted LDS info.  as did the surname of Skatt for his wife.  I also agree with you guys that Skatt is not an english name and given that the info says that Mary 'Skatt' was born in Northumberland I am tending to think the same as you, that her name was actually Scott.  Do any of you good people that have Charlton's in their tree, have a William that had a son Thomas (born 1810 or 1811) and who was married in 1809 at Seaton Burn to someone called Mary?  I would be very pleased to have just that one little bit of information then I could get over this wall and carry on.  Many thanks for all your help.  I will wait with baited breath from any replies.
Regards
Tricia

[diddymiller]

the only one I can find on the family search record search site on eng marriages is:

William Charlton= Mary kell  lee St John  1809
Diddy

[peter brownlee]

Seaton Burn is in Longbenton parish but the only Charlton-Scott marriage in the Genuki index about that time is Thomas Charlton to Mary Scott on 9th July 1808. Perhaps there was a  misreading by the original LDS source.
Peter

[morgany]

Thank you both for that information - Diddy, is the surname Lee and the middle name Kell for the Mary who married William?

It looks as if there has been a major misreading or mishearing on the part of the submitter to the LDS (which I have been suspecting).  Now it seems I will have to find out which of the couples, i.e. William and Mary or Thomas and Mary had a son called Thomas born around the right time as my Thomas.  Thank you again.  Any further help would be greatly appreciated if you have any other leads.  I did suggest to my friend that she got in touch with the LDS submitter (who apparently is a very distant relation) and ask her where she got her information from but that might be up to me as well.  Thanks again
Tricia

[diddymiller]

Hi, no the surname is Kell married in Lee st john - st john lee i think. transcribed as found.

Diddy

[patty0802]

Hi all -
I am going to jump in here also because I am currently searching Thomas Charlton born 1810 who married Ann  Scott and had parents of William and Mary Skatt.  I totally agree with all of the information from Familysearch.org that may be incorrect.  There are also many family trees on Ancestry.com that have conflicting information as well and it is driving me crazy !

 I have found a couple of entries that stated Thomas Charlton was born 1810 to Thomas Charlton NOT William Charlton.  I have not been able to find any record of his birth,even though I found entries that he was  born Aug 18, 1810 at Sparrow House in Seaton Burn.  I found his father William born 1784 in Seaton Burn and married to Mary Skatt 1809 in Sparrow House (so Thomas was born shortly afterwards)   Other children born to William and Mary Skatt (per Ancestry.com) were Isabella 1815, Jane 1818, Robert 1821, Richard William 1824 and Barbara 1828.  William Charlton died Jan 1873 in Newcastle according to these family trees posted.  Mary Skatt died April 1850.

Someone posted on Ancestry that William Charlton (b. 1784) was born to William Charlton (b. 1751 in Ponteland, Northumberland) died July 31 1818 in Ponteland, and married Mary Reay Nov 23 1786 i Ponteland.

This William's parents were George Charlton b. 1721 Berwick Hill, died 1773, and married Mary Milburn Nov 27, 1746 in Ponteland.

This tree goes on that George's parents were James Charlton b. 1675 in Hexham,died 1755 in Ponteland and married Isabel Errington Jan 18 1709 in Ponteland.

Continuing with this tree (from Ancestry) James' parents were James Charlton b. 1645 in Simonburn, and married Elizabeth Wilkinson Jun 7 1666 in Hexham.

Finally James' parents were Thomas Charlton b. 1617 in Hexham and married Isabel Leadbitter Sept 20 1635 in Hexam.

All the above is from the ROGERS Family Tree on Ancestry.com

My dilemma is that Thomas Charlton born Aug 18, 1810 at Sparrow House supposedly died in 1866 (same year and month as his wife Ann Scott) according to all posted records on Familysearch and Ancestry,  BUT ....  he appears on the census in 1901 (living with his son and family in 1901 at age 86 which puts his birth at 1815 instead of 1810/1811.

Thomas Charlton (born 1840) did marry twice -Eleanor Chapman married 1863 (she died 1878) and then he married Eleanor Greener, formery Havis in 1878.

All the above is from Ancestry family trees and Familysearch posted data.

I am in the early stages of this research, so I have no documents yet for proof.

Sorry for the LONG post !

-Patty
Chicago area

CLARK, SCOTT, MOOR, BAMBROUGH, PICKERING, Northumberland area

[patrexjax]

Hello all and especially patty0802. I have some of these same Charltons in my tree, however, I think some of the information on those trees may lead you astray. Practically all of these Charlton men were baptized in Ponteland, NBL.  Most specifically, James Charlton who married Isabel Errington in Ponteland 18 Dec 1708 in Ponteland was chr 11 Aug 1691 in Ponteland. Isabel/Isabella Errington was born 19 Jan 1687 in Ponteland, also. I think she is descended from the West Denton Erringtons and the Widdringtons of Widdrington.  I do agree that there are so many Charltons in the Northeast that it can become confusing.  In the case of on-line trees, I always try to verify the information. I hope this helps a bit. patrexjax

[patty0802]

With the help of another researcher we found that Thomas Charlton born April 22 1810 may have had the parents THOMAS Charlton and Margaret Thompson.  The baptism of Thomas Charlton 1810 (and many of his siblings are similar) refers to him as “2nd son of parents - Thomas Charlton (Joiner from Queen Street Native of Mitford Parish) and Margaret Thompson (Native of this Parish).”  Their firstborn son was John born June 1808.  Thomas and Margaret Thompson married Sept 1807.  Other children we found born to these parents were; John 1808, Thomas 1810, Margaret 1812, Peter 1815, William 1819, Joseph 1821, John 1826 and Margaret 1829.  Margaret Thompson Charlton (Mother died 1868 in Castle Ward, Northumberland). 

This index England Marriages, 1538–1973 states that Thomas's father was actually Thomas, not William:

Name Thomas Charlton
Spouse's Name Ann Scott
Event Date 1840
Event Place Newcastle Upon Tyne, St.Nicholas, Northumberland, England
Father's Name Thomas Charlton
Spouse's Father's Name William Scott


So,the parents as previously reported to be William Charlton and Mary Skatt may be Totally Wrong.

-Patty