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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #18 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:11 GMT (UK) »
The reason that I got the Hampshire Records Office bits and pieces was to try to get back a bit further in history.
I have seen the 1787 Jacob Keeling baptism, but I'm yet to be convinced that it is the same one.

It seems to me that there were two Jacob Keelings at around this time. Search for deaths on freebmd:

Jun 1874: KEELING Jacob 88 Winchester
Sep 1876: Keeling Jacob 57 Alton
Mar 1877: Keeling Jacob 81 Clifton

The middle one above is my Jacob 'junior'.
The Winchester one works out as born 1786 (looks like this is your baptism record).
The Clifton one is 1796 (this matches the 1841 census that I have, which mentions one of his sons, James).

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #19 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:14 GMT (UK) »

The Clifton one is 1796 (this matches the 1841 census that I have, which mentions one of his sons, James).

But the 1871 census for the St Cross man (born Kingsclere/Itchenswell) includes daughter Charlotte b Chilcombe...
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:14 GMT (UK) »
1871 census: RG10/1209/26/43

4 St Cross Hospital

Jacob KEELING Head Mar 84 Brother of St Cross Hospital, formerly farm bailiff Hants Itchenswell
Emma do Wife Mar 85 Berks Bidden
Charlotte JAMES Daur Mar 54 Hants Chilcombe

Ooh, this one does look like 'my' Jacob, as all the other names match up.
And he comes out as being born in 1787 from that. Hmm.

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:16 GMT (UK) »
If he is your Jacob, then he seems othave come from a good sized family. If you do a parent names only search on the IGI you get 3 sisters to him, plus a whole load of submitted entries.

Kirsty
Galloway,   Landers,   Lindsay,  Gillespie,  Irvine
Erskine,   McAdam,  Hawthorn
Robertson,   Duncan,   Edmonstone,    Black
Anderson,  Nicholson,  Crombie,  MacDonald
Arch, Herbert, Charlesworth, Chapman


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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:17 GMT (UK) »
If he is your Jacob, then he seems othave come from a good sized family. If you do a parent names only search on the IGI you get 3 sisters to him, plus a whole load of submitted entries.

Kirsty

And someone has him in an online family tree:

http://www.keelingfamily.co.uk/genealogy/individual.php?pid=I030&ged=Keeling4.GED
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:18 GMT (UK) »
Righto, I'm going to bed now, as it is way too late for me to think straight!

I hope I can clear up the spare Jacob in the morning.

Thanks for your kind help, everyone.

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PS. If Thomas is the father, it matches up with a massive tree I found over here:
http://keelingfamily.co.uk/genealogy/individual.php?pid=I010&ged=Keeling4.GED

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:19 GMT (UK) »
Haha! The same link!

Hopefully, I will be able to join that up with my site, which is here:

http://grke.net/cgi-bin/family.pl?id=keeling-jacob-1

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:25 GMT (UK) »
The IGI has another spelling for Keeling:
Kellian.
Interesting!
Kellian/Calling/Keeling

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/igi/individual_record.asp?recid=700061505458&lds=1&region=2

Definitely sleep time now.

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Re: What's going on with this surname?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 08 February 10 01:27 GMT (UK) »
Jacob and Emma are in separate places in 1851 (Emma has son James with her).

Refs are

Jacob (as farm bailiff in Barton Stacey): HO107/1683/48/17

Emma + James (in Winchester): HO107/1674/146/16

In both cases the handwriting is tricky - use the refs above to sidestep any mistranscriptions.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)