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Roger Williams and James Williams
« on: Friday 12 February 10 17:04 GMT (UK) »
I am looking for information on my great grandfather James Williams born in Stockport approx 1840.  His father was Roger Williams (no further information).  James married Sarah Ann Whitehead in Dentom Manchester in 1880.  I cannot find Roger in the census or BMD.  CAN ANYONE HELP WITH THIS PLEASE?
Suffolk....  Keeble, Johnson, Fisk, Aggis, Vince, Creek
Lancashire.......  Whitehead, Williams,

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #1 on: Friday 12 February 10 17:21 GMT (UK) »
Abbie,

Do you have James and and Sarah's marriage certificate and if so, does it say whether Roger is deceased at that time?

Jen
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #2 on: Friday 12 February 10 17:23 GMT (UK) »
I have James and Sarah's marriage certificate and Roger was alive at the time of the marriage.  He was a shoemaker.
Suffolk....  Keeble, Johnson, Fisk, Aggis, Vince, Creek
Lancashire.......  Whitehead, Williams,

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #3 on: Friday 12 February 10 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Found them in 1851
HO107/2155/154/30
4, Allcocks ?

Roger Williams, 49, Cord Winder, Liverpool
Elizabeth, 48, Stockport
Hanna, 14
James, 12, Doffer
Charles, 8

Hanna has an occupation but I am struggling to read it.  All offspring born Stockport.
Cord Winder will be Cordwainer = shoemaker.

Jen
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NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #4 on: Friday 12 February 10 17:37 GMT (UK) »
This looks like the family in 1841 but Roger isn't listed.

 Edward St. Stockport HO107/113/7

Elizabeth Williams, 35, Shoe Binder
Edward, 15
Mary, 14
Hannah, 5
James, 2

I'll see if I can find Roger somewhere else.

Jen
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #5 on: Friday 12 February 10 17:40 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jen
Are you using ancestry as I can seem to find this on 1851 census.
Suffolk....  Keeble, Johnson, Fisk, Aggis, Vince, Creek
Lancashire.......  Whitehead, Williams,

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #6 on: Friday 12 February 10 18:12 GMT (UK) »
I am using An*****y, yes but he has been transcribed as Roger William - no 's' on the end. The original image definitely says Williams.

Can't find Roger in 1841? ???

Jen
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ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #7 on: Friday 12 February 10 18:15 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Jen
I will see if I can find them.  I see from your search interests you list Williams in Hants.  I also have Williams in Hants, in Portsmouth.
Thank you so much for your help.  I was floundering.
Suffolk....  Keeble, Johnson, Fisk, Aggis, Vince, Creek
Lancashire.......  Whitehead, Williams,

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Re: Roger Williams and James Williams
« Reply #8 on: Friday 12 February 10 18:22 GMT (UK) »
No problem - it sometimes just takes an extra pair of eyes or a different way of approaching a problem. :)

My Williams family was from Portsea but I know very little about them, other than Ann, born around 1812, daughter of Emmanuel Williams and Ann Grose. Ann married Samuel Cant in Essex and was my 3 x great grandmother.

Jen
All Census Look Ups Are Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

ESS: Howe French Cant Annis Noakes Turner Marshall Makerow Duck Spurden Harmony
SCT: Howe Shaw Raitt Milne Forsyth Birnie Crichton Duncan McBeath Daniel Hay Robertson Jaffrey Smith McDonald Alexander Craighead
NRY: Bushby Smith Bland Iley Cunion Kendrew Thornbury Favell Lonsdale Crossland Rudd Pratt Gibson
WES; Dickenson Jackson Ewbank Waller
STS: White
SRY: Knight
DUR: Smith Littlefair
HAM: Williams Grose Lush Venson