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Offline Jason Hotchkiss

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Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« on: Thursday 13 May 04 10:20 BST (UK) »
I'm researching my Hotchkiss family who moved from Church Stretton area of Shropshire to Staffordshire in 1850's. Their name seems to have been recorded as Hodgkiss in censuses.

William Hotchkiss B1815 Acton Scott is my GGG grandfather. He seems to have married at least twice and worked in the foundaries. I have info about his children, of various degrees of certainty.

If anyone else is researching same please let me know!
Jason


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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 16 May 04 15:10 BST (UK) »
Hi Jason,

You haven't come across any Jane's in the Hodgkiss family have you born about 1855.  

I'm looking for a Jane who had a child in Wem  Shropshire.  The child was possibly born out of wedlock.

Jacquie.
surnames researching:
Wolverhampton- Pearce Burt Crockett Cowley Dickinson Fisher Harris Spencer Owen
Dudley, Tipton, Brierley Hill - Fisher Cooper Pearson
Darlaston- Fisher

Norfolk- Pease Jewel Twite Holmstead Bird   Yorkshire- White Hawkin Pease
Kenilworth- Hammond

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #2 on: Monday 17 May 04 21:38 BST (UK) »
Hi Jaquie

Do you know any more about your Jane. I found a Jane Hotchkiss B1855 in Acton Scott which got me interested since she might be related to my Acton Scott Hotchkiss ancestors

On the IGI her parents were Edward and Elizabeth and she was baptised 1sep1855. I have them in 1861 census living in Acton Scott where Edward was born Ludlow 1820 and Elizabeth born Ludlow 1816. Jane is the only child living with them in 1861

Does this sound like your Jane? do you know any more about her

Cheers
Jason

PS : I hope I'm not getting too Shropshire for the Staffs board!

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 18 May 04 13:33 BST (UK) »
Hi Jason,

I don't think that there is a connection.  I don't know any more about my Jane.  The closest I came to finding the one that I thought was mine was one born in Astley Abbots Shropshire.

Jacquie
surnames researching:
Wolverhampton- Pearce Burt Crockett Cowley Dickinson Fisher Harris Spencer Owen
Dudley, Tipton, Brierley Hill - Fisher Cooper Pearson
Darlaston- Fisher

Norfolk- Pease Jewel Twite Holmstead Bird   Yorkshire- White Hawkin Pease
Kenilworth- Hammond

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 18 May 04 16:37 BST (UK) »
Hi Jacquie,
I have found this Jane in the VRI. Regards, Frances

HODGKISS, Jane   Christening
   Gender:   Female
   Christening Date:   5 Apr 1857   Recorded in:   Madeley, Shropshire, England
   Mother:   Mary Ann HODGKISS
Source:   FHL Film 992319   Dates:   1857 - 1858   
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

-------------------------------------------------- 
Hope/Buckinghamshire    Palmer Cambridge
Hope/Camberwell            Palmer Essex  
Bolton/Camberwell           Emery Potton Bedfordshire
DeBoo/ Poplar/Anywhere           
Oliver /Chatteris, Cambs.   
Redkison/ Anywhere          
Carter Bedfordshire
Bernard/Stepney
Lawrence/Colchester Essex 
Carter/ Leytonstone
Bones/ Essex
Tullett/ Surrey/Essex

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 20 May 04 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi Frances,

Thank you for the info, I will check this out.

Jacquie.

surnames researching:
Wolverhampton- Pearce Burt Crockett Cowley Dickinson Fisher Harris Spencer Owen
Dudley, Tipton, Brierley Hill - Fisher Cooper Pearson
Darlaston- Fisher

Norfolk- Pease Jewel Twite Holmstead Bird   Yorkshire- White Hawkin Pease
Kenilworth- Hammond

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 03 June 04 04:39 BST (UK) »
hi jason,

my name is dave hodgkiss and i live in toronto canada. my grandfather is cyril hodgkiss born 1905 i believe. his father - herbert hodgkiss born probably sometime in the early 1870's or 1880's who married frances emily wright born 1881. i believe may be one of the sons of your ggg grandfather who could be my gg grandfather... let me know if this makes sense.

i did a little research and i think this would be my great grandfather born 1878 in staffordshire hartshill (you'll have to excuse my lack of knowledge being from a different country) i know my grandfather said he was from either birmingham or cheltenham or maybe was born in one and lived for a while in the other...

do you think its possible that we're related?

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 03 June 04 11:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Dave
I have not found Herbert in the research I've done so far, so if there is a link I think it would be further back.

I guess your Herbert would be the 3rd one in this list taken from the 1901 census index...

 Herbert Hodgkiss  15 Lye Worcester Worcester Lye Clay Carrier
 Herbert Hodgkiss  19 Salop Market Drayton Staffordshire Ashley  
 Herbert Hodgkiss  23 Staffordshire Hartshill Gloucestershire Cheltenham Ironmongers Assistant

This would make him alive at the time of the 1881 census, and the best match I could find for him is

Dwelling   29 Wood St, Dudley, Worcester, England

 Abraham HODGKISS   Head   M   Male   33   Dudley, Worcester, England   Grocer    
 Emma HODGKISS   Wife   M   Female   30   Bristol, Somerset, England        
 George HODGKISS   Son      Male   6   Dudley, Worcester, England   Scholar    
 Frederick HODGKISS   Son      Male   4   Dudley, Worcester, England        
 Ellen HODGKISS   Daur      Female   2   Dudley, Worcester, England        
 ***Herbert HODGKISS   Son      Male   3 m   Dudley, Worcester, England        

In 1881 there is also a Herbert born in 1877 but in Lancashire, which looks a bit too far away from Hartshill, but you never know...

Dwelling   178 & 180 Manchester Rd, Ince In Makerfield, Lancashire, England

 Richard HODGKISS   Head   M   Male   41   Lancashire, England   Butcher (Master)    
 Alice HODGKISS   Wife   M   Female   39   Lancashire, England   Butcher Wife    
 Robert HODGKISS   Son   U   Male   18   Lancashire, England   Butcher (Journeyman)    
 Alfred Thomas (William) HODGKISS   Son      Male   13   Lancashire, England   Butcher (Apprentice)    
 William James HODGKISS   Son      Male   11   Lancashire, England   Scholar    
 Walter HODGKISS   Son      Male   8   Lancashire, England   Scholar    
 ****Herbert HODGKISS   Son      Male   4   Lancashire, England   Scholar    
 Arthur HODGKISS   Son      Male   1   Lancashire, England        
 Eliza Alice HODGKISS   Daur      Female   1 m   Lancashire, England        
 Alice ECKERSLEY   Relative   U   Female   22   Lancashire, England   Gen Serv (Domestic)    
 John Peter ECKERSLEY   Relative      Male   1   Lancashire, England        

I am not familiar with either of these families in my research so far, but maybe we will find a link a bit further back. Good luck with your reseach and I will let you know if I find anything

PS I assume you are familiar with the census websites I have used. If not
1881 UK census : http://www.familysearch.org
1901 UK censys : http://www.census.pro.gov.uk/

Best wishes
Jason

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Re:Hotchkiss/Hodgkiss, Wednesbury
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 June 04 13:49 BST (UK) »
hi jason,

and thank you for your help. this makes much more sense now. although i'm not positive that this is him, i know that when he came here with my grandfather, they were butchers.
i am going to see my grandfather this weekend so i will bring this material to see if he can add something or confirm your findings. thanks again and i be sure to let you know if i find anything new...

dave