William and Ellen Charlesworth.

[dandylion]

Hi,does anyone have any info on William and Ellen Charlesworth? I know that Ellen was originaly Ellen Parkin born 1827 in Worsbourgh, she married John Riley in 1844 and had a son Henry born 1844. Then she married William in 1848 in Ardsley and they had at least 7 children including Joseph who I am reserching. I can't find a deffinate birth for father William, does anyone have any more info on him? Another mystery I have come across is that acording to the 1891 census Joseph was married to a Louisa fron the USA, but on the 1901 census he is a widower and louisa is a visiting widow calling herself Louisa Barton! The children are still on the census but Jessie is now a visitor and also called Barton. I can find no record of a marriage of Joseph and Louisa either in England or the USA. This has me stumped, any ideas where I can go with this?     Thanks, Rowena.                                                             

[trish1120]

Hi Rowena,
I think I can solve one of your puzzles!

Wm CHARLESWORTH
Christened 04 March 1804, Darton, Yorkshire
Mother, ANNE Charlesworth

Ok, so it looks like he was illegitimate.
His Mother Ann HAIGH, born c 1777, Hemsworth, Yks, appears on 1851 Census with him and Wife Ellen, Son George age 2, Joseph 2mths and Henry RILEY age 6.

There is this possible Marriage ( spellings were often a little out then)
Ann CHARLESWORTH
Samuel HAGUE
14 January 1811, Darfield, Yorkshire
( all extracted records IGI at Familysearch)

Trish

[dandylion]

Thank you Trish, I will dig deeper into this info. Rowena.

[trish1120]

Ann is on 1841 Census alone in Darfield and appears to be in the Workhouse age 84 in 1861 in Barnsley. She is pretty consistent with her Date and POB, 1777, Hemsworth. In 1861 it is indexed as Emsworth.
Did Charles die post 1851? Sad I think that she ended up in a Workhouse.

[dandylion]

Hi Trish, Finaly found her on the census of 1841 and 1861 after jiggling the spelling about. I can't find the death for samuel in the BMD's up to 1841 as there are 6 possibles in just those years, name is too common in yorkshire. I haven't been able to find Anns birth in 1777 at Hemsworth yet but i'll keep hunting. Rowena

[Ebch]

A Female Charlesworth born 28 May 1777 christened Kirk Bramwith (less than 10 miles from Hemsworth) father Alexander Charlesworth Mother Elizabeth.

[Ebch]

Not sure of the William Charlesworth christened Darton 1804.  There is a William Charlesworth, right age, still in Darton area in 1841 and 1851 census.
Census does say place of birth Ardsley, Barnsley for the William Dandylion seeks. Worth looking at is William Charlesworth b 22 Dec 1806 to William and Mary Charlesworth - christened at Wath - grandfather George Charlesworth, maternal grandfather Thomas Watson. 
There was a Charlesworth family in Darton early 1800's (James C married Elizabeth ? Darton 1826) but they seemed to stay around the area.
Ann Charlesworth Haigh Hague seems worth chasing. Darfield is only 2 miles from Ardsley

[dandylion]

Hi Ebch, I already have this William from Wath on my list of possibles, but thank you for writing and finding him for me. Rowena.

[trish1120]

Hi Rowena,
It is possible that the 1804 Christening I found is not him but by Census entry Ann is his Mother.
What does Williams Marriage Cert to Ellen have on it?

Trish