Origins of PENROSE aka PENROS

[Chris Penrose]

Hi there

I have checked my family history email account and have found your request.

Gwennap is not a parish involving my line back to at least 1600, however I am quite happy to research this.

There is information from a few websites that indicate William Henry PENROSE of Gwennap as his father, and I am now double checking my findings by tracing back further.


I can also provide you with the websites and details by email of what I have found to date.
All the best

Chris
 

[Chris Penrose]

I have now tracked back through the census records of Gwennap to the nearest to when William Henry's parents were born.

These details are all on a Word 2010 document.

William Henry's parents were John PENROSE and Eliza - who died in 1855.

All the best

Chris

[confused73]

Hi Chris, Thank you for your reply.Would be happy to receive an e-mail with sites etc but not sure how to go about this without sending my e-mail  on the open web.   llandinam

[Chris Penrose]

I have sent a personal message.

Regards

Chris

[Chris Penrose]

The formatting comes out, but if you look at the data on the screen, by putting in the internet addresses all should become clear.


Parish Register Record
Day Month   03-Aug Year   1873 Parish Or Reg District   Gwennap
Forename   William John     Surname   PENROSE      Sex   son
Father  Forename   William Henry   Mother  Forename   Mary Louisa
Residence   Carharrack   Father  Rank/Profession   Miner
Notes   J.M. Michell Mary Michell M.J.Phillips (witnesses)
Transcriber  Coral Jennings
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=baptisms&id=1948702
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1881 Census    William J. PENROSE           Male    
Birth Year    <1873> Birthplace    Gwennap, Cornwall, England
Age    8 (Ages in Census normally rounded up to next birthday)
Occupation    Scholar           Marital Status  U    
Head of Household    William Hy. PENROSE          Relation   Son
Source Information:
Dwelling   Road Leading To St Day    Census Place    Gwennap, Cornwall, England
Family History Library Film   1341560
Public Records Office Reference    RG11
Piece / Folio   2329 / 18          Page Number   9
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp

Full Census Record
Household Record    1881 British Census
    
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Previous Household  
Next Household

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    Household: (spelling mistakes – see 1891 record below)
 Name    Relation   Marital Status   Gender   Age   Birthplace   Occupation   Disability
 William Hy. PENROSE
 Head     M     Male     35     Gwennap, Cornwall, England     Butcher      
 Lousia PENROSE
 Wife     M     Female     30     Gwennap, Cornwall, England     Butcher Wife      
 William J. PENROSE
 Son          Male     8     Gwennap, Cornwall, England     Scholar      
 Thomas M. PENROSE
 Son          Male     6     Gwennap, Cornwall, England     Scholar      
 Annie PENROSE
 Daur          Female     4     Gwennap, Cornwall, England           
 Frederick PENROSE
 Son          Male     3     Gwennap, Cornwall, England           
 Aurthur PENROSE
 Son          Male     8 m     Gwennap, Cornwall, England           

________________________________________
Source Information:
    Dwelling     Road Leading To St Day
    Census Place   Gwennap, Cornwall, England
    Family History Library Film     1341560

    Public Records Office Reference     RG11
    Piece / Folio     2329 / 18
    Page Number     9


http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=/eng/search/ancestorsearchresults.asp
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/82329.html

1891 Census
Folio 9 Page 12

92,Albion Row,1,William H Penrose,Head,M,45,,Butcher & Farmer,Employer,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Louisa Penrose,Wife,M,,39,,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,William J Penrose,Son,S,17,,Farmers Son,Employed,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Thomas M Penrose,Son,S,16,,Farmers Son,Employed,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Fred Penrose,Son,,13,,Scholar,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Arthur Penrose,Son,,10,,Scholar,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Lily Penrose,Dau,,,8,Scholar,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Nellie Penrose,Dau,,,7,Scholar,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Ida M Penrose,Dau,,,3,,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Ivan H Penrose,Son,,1,,,,Gwennap Cornwall,,

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/1845.html
Marriage of William Henry Penrose to Louisa
Surname     First name(s)          District     Vol     Page
Marriages Mar 1873   (>99%)
Michell    Mary Louisa         Redruth    5c   376     Scan available - click to view
PENROSE    William Henry         Redruth    5c   376     Scan available - click to view

References to James Penrose of St Just have been deleted as wrong.

All the best

Chris Penrose

[Chris Penrose]

Due to the maximum of 5500 characters per posting. this is the rest of my initial research:

1871 Census
66,Front Street,1,Mary A Penrose,Head,U,,26,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,William H Penrose,Brothr,U,24,,Butcher,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Caroline Penrose,Sister,U,,20,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Edwin Penrose,Brothr,U,18,,Goldsmith,Gwennap Cornwall,,
RG10/2313 Folio 23 Page 10

49,Carharrack,1,Wm Michell,Head,M,67,,Farm Labourer,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Fanny Michell,Wife,M,,63,,Quebec Canada Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,,Louisa Michell,Dau,U,,18,Work Mine,Gwennap Cornwall,,
RG10/2313 Folio 10 Page 11

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/72313.html
1861 Census
49,Vogue,1,William Michell,Head,M,55,,Road Labourer,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Frances Michell,Wife,M,,44,,Quebec North America Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,,Henry Michell,Son,U,23,,Copper Miner,Quebec North America Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,,Lousia Michell,Dau,,,9,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Sarah Michell,Dau,,,6,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
RG9/1577(2) Folio 108 Page 12

102,Carharrack,1,John Penrose,Head,W,50,,Tailor,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Mary A Penrose,Dau,U,,18,Housekeeper,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,William H Penrose,Son,,15,,Carter A C,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Joseph Penrose,Son,,12,,Carter A C,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Caroline Penrose,Dau,,,10,Scholar,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Edwin Penrose,Son,,8,,Scholar,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,,Annie Penrose,Niece,U,,21,Tailoress,Gwennap Cornwall,,
RG9/1577(2) Folio 122 Page 17
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/61577a.html
1851 Census
3,Vogue,William Michell,Head,M,44,,Gardener,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Frances Michell,Wife,M,,34,,Quebec Brit Subj Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,Henry Michell,Son,U,16,,Copper Miner,Quebec Brit Subj Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,William Michell,Son,,11,,Copper Miner,Canada Brit Subj Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,Jane Michell,Dau,,,9,Sunday Scholar,Canada Brit Subj Overseas Brit. Subj,,
,,Frances Michell,Dau,,,7,Sunday Scholar,Leeds Yorkshire,,
,,Elizabeth Michell,Dau,,,5,,\- Ireland,,
,,John Michell,Son,,3,,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Louisa Michell,Dau,,,1m,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
HO107/1914(3) Folio 199 Pages 1-2
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/51914c.html
37,Carharrack,John Penrose,Head,M,46,,Tailor,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Eliza Penrose,Wife,M,,40,,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Amelia Penrose,Dau,U,,19,Grocer,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Eliza Penrose,Dau,U,,17,At Home,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,John Penrose,Son,U,16,,Scholar,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Rosena Penrose,Dau,U,,12,Scholar,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Mary Ann Penrose,Dau,U,,7,Scholar,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,William Henry Penrose,Son,U,4,,At Home,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Joseph Penrose,Son,U,3,,At Home,Gwennap Cornwall,,
,,Caroline Penrose,Dau,U,,1,At Home,Gwennap Cornwall,,
HO107/1914 (4) Folio 380 Page 12
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kayhin/51914c.html
Day Month   28-Feb
Year   1855
Parish Or Reg District   Gwennap
Forename   Eliza
Surname   PENROSE
Age   44
Residence   Carharrack
Notes   
Transcriber Notes   
Transcriber   Karen Duvall
http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/more-info/?t=burials&id=1255932
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All the best

Chris

[confused73]

Hi Chris    Thank you very much for all that information. It has filled in many gaps. I will send you an e-mail with information about the later Penrose family from Gwennap Once again thank you.   llandinam

[mrs magoo]

I might be a very distant Penrose decendant living in New Zealand,i have 11x Grandparents John Hill and Alice Penrose marrying 15 sept 1595, Wendron Cornwall. My ancestors on Dads Grandmas side lived in Cornwall for a long time,until A decendant couple Hanibal Gilbert and Elizabeth Congdon his wife and family came to NZ 1860 to Otago,nz. I have sent my DNA test recently and waiing on results. Would love to know any cousins on these sides of family. My maiden name is Jacobs and Married name Beaver   
Karen

[garlands]

I don't know if this thread is still 'live' but, if it is, here's my tiny contribution.

I've not looked into my PENROSE connections for many years, but I am descended from Elizabeth PENROSE (bap 3 Aug 1713, Perranzabuloe). She married John GOLDSWORTHY (21 Dec 1734, Perranzabuloe).

Elizabeth's father was Christopher.

I'm afraid I've left the line there whilst concentrating on other lines. It looks as if I shall have to return to it.