The FERRIEs in Scotland

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi All,

 Searching, as always, for Hessies, I found Hessie FERRIE's grandfather, John FERRIE in Scotland in 1881
(Errm ... credit where credit is due: it was actually <b>winston</b> who found them !
Thanks again, winston !)

these are the details for the FERRIE Family in Scotland in 1881:

Mary  Ferrie  Head  Female 47  (1834) England     
John  Ferrie  Son  Male  23  (1858) United States  Labourer, Boilermaker
Richard  Ferrie  Son  Male  21  (1860) United States  Labourer, Boilermaker
Theresa  Ferrie  Daur  Female 20  (1861) United States  Laundress

Between 1858 and 1861 the family was obviously still in the states.

As a result of a request on the USA board, <b>DTrom</b> managed to find them in 1860:

In the 1860 US census index they were listed as Ferrey
1860 US Census, Pennsylvania, Philadelphia County, Philadelphia (city), 15th Ward
Ferrey, John, age 26 b. Scotland, Occupation: Iron Moulder
           Mary, age 27, b. England
            John, age 3, b. Pennsylvania
           Richard, age 1, b. Pennsylvania

After a sleepness night ( NO, not because of the FERRIEs, I do have other problems, you know !) I thought of some more questions:

Before she married John, Mary was Mary HARLY:

- did John and Mary meet and marry in the States or in Britain ?
- when did they come to the States ?

Sometime between 1861 and 1881:

- John FERRIE died - when ?
- The family moved back to Scotland - when ?

Can anybody "see" them in  Scotland on the 1871 census

Can anybody see anything else about them, anywhere

Family legend has it, that originally came from Islay.

Thanks,
Bob

PS: more details can be seen at http://www.margulies-chronicles.com/ag/_ferrie/fam-ferr-ferrie.php

[trish251]

Hi Bob

Seeing as I was looking to burn some SP credits, I found this and hope they are yours
1871  (and I am having trouble reading it!)
District: Park County: Lanark  Civil Parish: Givan? Village: Strathlingo?
Pollack xxxx? Rd Storyland's No 126

Mary Ann Ferrie  Head  40  Mar  Washerwoman     England
John  Son  Unm 13  Moulder  Apprentice  America (B.Sub.)
Richard Son Unm 11  Scholar  America(B.Sub)
Teresa Daur Unm  10 Scholar  America (B.Sub)

Fairly sure it says Mar and not Wid for Mary Ann

Trish

[Berlin-Bob]

Hi Trish,

that looks like a definite hit !!  Thanks !!

On my "Ferries in America" posting a Chatter found a naturalisation cert. for a John Ferrie.  Makes you wonder if Father-John stayed in the USA, but that begs the question, why did Mary, an englishwomen, come back to Scotland

I still think the whole family must have come back to Scotland and then Father-John either died here or skedaddled !  One day ....... !

Thanks again !
Bob

ps: the Givan? is most likely Govan, as there are other (later) Ferrie 'sightings' there, right down to Hessie M-i-L

pps: No time like the present, you are now immortalised on my web site, see link above. Hope you approve !

[anne jane]

Bob

Here is the info that I found on your family in the poor law applications at the Mitchell Library Glasgow

D-Hew 15/4/6  2099

Name  James Carrolls wife Teresa Agnes Ferrie

address  27 West Bothwell St Glasgow

Date of application 21st July 1888

Place of birth  USA

age 27, married, laundress, religion Roman Catholic.  Married on the 30th December 1881 in St Patricks Chapel by Father McArthur

Parentage  John Ferrie a moulder dead and Mary Ann Harley lives with applicant

Husband age 26 yrs born 13th June 1861 at Finneston St son of Patrick Carroll dead and Elizabeth Biggins who is at 7 Anderston St Kinning Park Glasgow

Children

Elizabeth age 7 born Catherine St
Isabella age 5 born Richard St
James age 3 born Lancefield St
John born 12th July 1888 at present house

Husband left her 9 weeks ago then stowed away on a steamer going to Montreal.  She received a letter from him 5 weeks ago but no money since he went away.

Applies for outdoor relief

13th December 1888 medical relief granted for child Isabella
17th December 1888 child Isabella entered poorhouse
17th December 1888 Dr Carruthers recommends that the child Isabella who is suffering from absess of the groin should be removed to Barnhill Hospital

4th Feb 1889 taken out by mother

Hope this info will be of some help to you

Janie

[Berlin-Bob]

Janie, that is fantastic ! Thank you, very, very  much !

This is almost a short story in itself :

Husband left her 9 weeks ago then stowed away on a steamer going to Montreal.  She received a letter from him 5 weeks ago but no money since he went away.

Applies for outdoor relief

Whow !!  I certainly never thought of that as a source of information, the details are fantastic, parents of Theresa, Parents of husband, children  - it's like finding them on an 1888 census plus parents details !

- maybe this is a good tip for other RootsChatters, too 

Again,
Many thanks,
Bob