Thomastown CO Kilkenny Ireland

[biggles5000]

Hello Biggles, i have been tracing the jackman family, my father came from Bennettsbridge and so did a couple of generations before him but i am sure there must be a link between them and the Thomastown Jackmans, they all have the same christian names and some seem to be witnesses at christenings etc. they seem connected mostly around 1800-1900 and they all seem to live along the road between the two places, your thoughts please as the local expert.
thanks.

it is pssible that the two familys are connected i had the same findings with my own family where cousin would of stood for family members as god parent.Thomaston and Benntetsbridge isnt that far apart only five miles out the road so yes they all could of been related in some way

[gnasher22]

Thank you Biggles, i have been going over to Kilkenny once a year for the past three years and met up with relations i had never met before it was great, i also traced my grandfather Walter Jackman [ of Bennettsbridge ] and my great grandfather on my Nans side John Donnelly of Thomastown, they both worked as labourers at Kilmurry house and when my grandad married John Donnellys daughter Bridget they lived in one of the gatehouses outside of Kilmurry house, i was invited into the house by the current resident and could not believe how small it was inside, it was two rooms, one 8 foot square the other about 7 foot square, that was where my father was born together with four other brothers and a sister, eventually they moved back to Bennettsbridge and had a house next to the Nore which was owned by the Mosse family [ the millers ] thank you again.

[Jaznjj]

Thank you Biggles, I will follow your suggestion.  It is useful to know the economic situation in a place to try and figure out why families immigrated.  One very interesting thing I noticed in the shipping records for the particular families is that while the parents, generally speaking, could neither read nor write, their children could which suggests that at the time education was valued and that the people were looking to the future. Either that or there was a real tough school ma'am in town!  Jaz

[Cosbygp]

Hello Biggles

I would be very grateful for a Thomastow marriage lookup.

I'm looking for the marriage of a Mary Jacobs to a an English soldier name James Etheridge (spelt various ways: Etteridge, Etterige, etc.) This should have happened in the mid 1830s.

Not sure if it's possible or not but a look up or advice would be appreciated.

Thanks.

[vhowie]

I have just posted a msg  and I notice you have offered to look up information for Thomastown,Kilkenny.
My great grandmother Johanna Frances Maher/Mahar was born in Thomastown abt 1844. I have been unable to trace her birth.
Her parents were Patrick and Catherine Despburn this is what is stated on her death certificate however I think it may be Catherine Spruhen as Johannas' grandfather was Michale Spruhen/Spruhan who lived at Jerpointabbey,Thomastown,Kilkenny. I have found a record for him on Griffiths Valuation as residing there in 1853.
Michael was deceased by 1892. Any information would be helpful.

Moderator Note - see related link : Johanna Frances Maher born Thomastown

[Jaznjj]

Hello, this is a follow-up to previous posts regarding the families in my header. I am seeking help locating information about the following events:
.  birth in approximately 1813 of Catherine, daughter of James and Catherine Walsh
.  marriage of Catherine Walsh to Edward Foley estimated 1833
.  death of James and Catherine Walsh - say 1855-1880
The families lived in Thomastown, Kilkenny and were Roman Catholics.  Catherine (nee Walsh) and Edward Foley left Ireland for Australia in 1855 with at least some of their children - leaving the parents behind. 
Any assistance gratefully received.
Jennifer

[shanew147]

....
 am seeking help locating information about the following events:
.  birth in approximately 1813 of Catherine, daughter of James and Catherine Walsh
.  marriage of Catherine Walsh to Edward Foley estimated 1833
.  death of James and Catherine Walsh - say 1855-1880
The families lived in Thomastown, Kilkenny and were Roman Catholics.  Catherine (nee Walsh) and Edward Foley left Ireland for Australia in 1855 with at least some of their children - leaving the parents behind. 
......

Walsh is a common surname in the area so it could be difficult to find the correct records for your Walsh family. I would start with the marriage since you have two known names - which makes it easier to match up, or discard any records you find. Earlier records tend to be quite limited in details, so you could possibly find a marriage for Catherine and Edward with just the date, their names plus the names of witnesses. If you are lucky the record could give residences to the groom and bride in which case it might narrow down the area to check for their baptisms.

RC Baptism and Marriage records for the parish of Thomastown go back to about 1782, and details of these are available on microfilm Pos. 5024 in the National Library in Dublin. Records also seem to be available through LDS Family history libraries - see details here  (Irish Times)

Transcript records for the parish are also available on the pay-website of the Irish Family History Foundation at www.rootsireland.ie

Like many RC registers, these do not include death/burials. If James and/or Catherine died after the start of full civil records started (1864) then there should be a civil record, which would mean a death cert, although since Walsh is a common name in the area it could be difficult to find them.

see : Introduction to Irish Records


Shane

[Jaznjj]

Thank you Shane, first stop LDS and then other sites as necessary.  I had discovered from the census 1901/11 how prolific the Walsh name is in Thomastown.  I am interested in the social and economic pressures which might have led to this family (Edward and Catherine, their children, son-in-law James Foley and James' brother Michael and wife) leaving Ireland. James Hudson committed suicide in a fit of insanity by slashing his throat in 1864, father-in-law Edward Foley was killed (justifiable homicide) while he was insane in 1870.  Not sure that the events in Australia can be associated with their reasons for leaving Ireland but contribute those facts as part of the family context. 

Regards,
Jennifer

[Tinamac]

Hi, Gnasher22. This is my first time to use this site and I was surprised to see your post. I think that your grandfather Walter is my great grandfather. I have never heard about his time at Kilmurry house - I gather this is where Walter and Bridget met! Did Walter have one or two sisters?

Thank you Biggles, i have been going over to Kilkenny once a year for the past three years and met up with relations i had never met before it was great, i also traced my grandfather Walter Jackman [ of Bennettsbridge ] and my great grandfather on my Nans side John Donnelly of Thomastown, they both worked as labourers at Kilmurry house and when my grandad married John Donnellys daughter Bridget they lived in one of the gatehouses outside of Kilmurry house, i was invited into the house by the current resident and could not believe how small it was inside, it was two rooms, one 8 foot square the other about 7 foot square, that was where my father was born together with four other brothers and a sister, eventually they moved back to Bennettsbridge and had a house next to the Nore which was owned by the Mosse family [ the millers ] thank you again.

[gnasher22]

Hello Tinamac, Well what a lovely surprise, i guess we must be cousins? i would love to hear more about you and your [ our? ] family, where do you live? any way to answer your question i believe walter had at least two and possibly four sisters although i am not 100% on that at the moment, i have started to put a family tree together and have found quite a few names but i need to double check them and get them in some sort of order, i would be glad to share this with you if you are interested, we need to swap email addresses and phone no's but i think you will need to make three posts to this site before you can do this, his sisters are Anastatia, Mary and possibly Margret and eileen, hope this helps, look forward to hearing from you.