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The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« on: Wednesday 03 March 10 21:45 GMT (UK) »
I have traced my Newell ancestors of Presteigne as far as HUGH RICHARD, BORN IN PRESTEIGNE JULY 15 1764, DIED1846, but cannot trace his parents.  I've been told that his father was Hugh Newell, and his father either Richard (1737) or Richard (1738).  Does anyone know anything that could help?

Thanks,
Melissa
Newel/Newell/Newall
Hanlon of Tralee & Birmingham
Halford of Halford, Tredington & Alscott
Venour of Warwickshire
Fountain(e) of Cranfield, Bedfordshire
Brindley of Lapley area, Staffordshire
Bailey of Birmingham
Jenkinson of Norfolk or Suffolk

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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #1 on: Friday 26 November 10 14:57 GMT (UK) »
There was a Charlie Newell that owned the hardware / ironmonger shop in Presteigne .... I used to go in there as a child

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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 07 April 13 14:07 BST (UK) »
Vol. 36 1912 Welshpool registers:
some extracts from the old registers of St Mary's Church

Page 76. On this page is noted-
During 1727-Bapt, 47; Sepult., 63; Nupt., 2.
Evidently the town was visited by an epidemic.
The unsanitary state of the town and the
ignorance of the very rudiments of sanitation
accounts for the large death rate, and the
infant mortality is appalling; in those days it
was a case of the survival of the fittest.
Sara Newel, Vidua, de Pola, Sepult. 111110 May, 1728.
Widow of William Newell, Sen., of Welshpool, tobacconist
and malster, who died in 1726, and mother of William,
Joseph, Thomas, Edward and Robert Newell or Newill, of
Welshpool, Shrewsbury and Dolgelley. They were hereditary
burgesses of Shrewsbury, and descended from Richard Newell
of Worthen, time of Henry VIII. Mrs. Sarah Newell, in her
Will, dated May ,7th, 1728 (the day previous to her death),
bequeaths various houses in Welshpool to her sons, the
Pack Horse and houses in Mount Street being included. This
Will is now in the possession of the Rev. J. Gilbertson-
Pritchard of Morben and Lytham, who is also a descendant,
through his great grandmother, Sarah Newell (who married
David Pritchard in 1793), of William and Sarah Newell of
Welshpool. There is a large stone over No. 4, Broad Street,
inscribed - N.W. S. i.e., W. and S. Newell, 1721.

http://welshjournals.llgc.org.uk/browse/viewpage/llgc-id:1238716/llgc-id:1240100/llgc-id:1240196/getText

Shropshire registers. Check Worthen and Pontesbury:

http://www.melocki.org.uk/MelockiSalop.html





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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 30 April 13 04:26 BST (UK) »
More form Welsh Journals online:

Welshpool

Page 36. Ricardus, fil. Gulielmi Newel, Jun., et Blancae, uxoris
i ejus. de Pola, Bapt. 19110 Septembris, 1717.
Blancea, uxor. Gulielm Newel, Jun., de Pola, Sepult. 21mo
Septembris, 1717.
Gulielmus, fil. ejusdem Gulielmj Newell, Sepult. 29no
Septembris, 1717.
William Newell, son of William and Sara Newell of Pool
was descended from Richard Newell of Worthen (temp.
Henty VIII.), hereditary burgess of Shrewsbury. Wm. Newell or
Newill was admitted Burgess of Shrewsbury on February 24th,
1721-2. He was Vicar's Warden for the Parish of St. Mary's,
Welshpool, Easter, 1725, and died in 1747 The Newells or
Newills were originally glovers in Frankwell, Shrewsbury,
some of the family being Wardens of the Glover Company
there.

Dorothea, fil. Josephi Newell de Pola et Dorothea, ux.
Bapt. Feby 6te, 1732.
Son of William Newell or Newill of Pool, who died in 1726,
admitted hereditary burgess of Shrewsbury, 1722. Joseph
Newill left Welshpool, circa 1742, it is thought he died in
London previous to 1790.

Willis at Somerset House, Montgomeryshire 1742
#84 Edward Newell

Marriage Bonds and Fiats, 1788
Apr. 5. John Lewis of the parish of Llanfynnidd, Carms., farmer,
and Mary Newell of the parish of Llanarthney, Carms.,

Accused:Jane Morgan; Parish: Welshpool; County: Montgomery; Status: Married
Offence: Theft of household goods - napkins - from prosecutor's garden.
Location and date Parish: Welshpool; County: Montgomery; Date: 18 May 1738
Prosecutor: William Newell, Welshpool


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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 30 April 13 04:28 BST (UK) »
BERRIEW. PRYCE VISCOUNT HEREFORD.

CONVEYANCE OF LANDS in Counties of Suffolk and
Montgomery, part of the Estate of Pryce, Lord
Viscount Hereford, deceased. (See his will, supra,
page 11.)

KRCOVERY ROLL. PLEAS OF LAND. TRINITY TERM, 28TH
GEORGE II, 1755. No. 56.

and also all that parcel of
land called the fforest of Treveglos. purchased by the said
ffather of the last Lord Viscount Hereford of Sir Richard
Middleton, all which several premises are situate, lying, and
being in the said county of Montgomery, and now are or late
were in the several tenures or occupation of James Gethyn,
James Jones, David Oliver, Richard Jones, Joseph Tibbot,
Arthur Gyles, William Pryce, ffrancis Watts, Edward Good-
wyn, William Ellis, David Davies, Hugh Brown, Richard
Habberley, John Goodvvyn, John Tibbot, Elizabeth Davies,
John Lloyd, Catherine Owen, Evan Evans. John Jones, Thomas
Roberts, Edward Edwards, Thomas Jones, Richard Powell,
Thomas Withers, Cadwalidir Davies, Thomas Brees, William
Pryce, John Morris, Harding Evans, Edward Morris, Robert
Rees, Thomas Evans of Cross Lane, Thomas Evans of Duffryn,
John ftVeernan, Mary Pryce, James Jones or Tanner, Sarah
H owells, Benjamin Higgins, William Proctor, John Wytcherley,
John Baxter, Wordman Gittins, Arthur Vaughan, Mrs. Pryce,
Mathias Green, Thomas Shakeras, John W r ard, Mr. Arthur
Davies, William Griffith, Morris Jones, Margaret Powell,
Richard Evans, Thomas Tudor, Eleanor Davies, Edward Wood,
Gabriel Wood, Griffith Roberts, Griffith Evans, Richard
Wooding, William Lloyd, Matthias Green, Rees Pryce, David
Humphrey, David Morris, William Lloyd, John Pryce, John
Owen, John Richard, Thomas Howell Pryce, John Jones,
Richard Evans, Arthur Davies, Thomas Philips, William
Jones, Philip Philips, Richard David, Christopher Gittins, John
Gamon, Nathaniel Griffiths, Thomas Jones, Thomas Jones,
Thomas Newell, Evan Morgan, Edward Bomford, John Rey-
nolds, Hugh Davies, Edward Wild, James Newell, Richard
Newell
, Richard Pugh, David Syer, Edward Lord Viscount
Hereford, Evan Reynolds, Thomas Davies, Henry Parry, John
Evans, ffrancis Gough, John Jones, David Reynolds, Richard
Mason, and Thomas Bebb, or some of them, their, or some of
their undertenants or assigns, together with all other the
Messuages, ffarms, Lands, Tenements, Meadows, pastures,
ffeediugs, Moors, Marches, ffenns, heath commons, common of

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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 05 May 13 09:49 BST (UK) »
19 Newell wills on here

Just search for the name.

http://www.llgc.org.uk/index.php?id=3590
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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 08 September 13 14:28 BST (UK) »
Hi, I've been trying to trace the father of 'my' Hugh Richard Newell of Presteigne (1764-1846), and am hoping your Post will point me in the right direction!

Thanks,
Melissa

Vol. 36 1912 Welshpool registers:
some extracts from the old registers of St Mary's Church

Page 76. On this page is noted-
During 1727-Bapt, 47; Sepult., 63; Nupt., 2.
Evidently the town was visited by an epidemic.
The unsanitary state of the town and the
ignorance of the very rudiments of sanitation
accounts for the large death rate, and the
infant mortality is appalling; in those days it
was a case of the survival of the fittest.
Sara Newel, Vidua, de Pola, Sepult. 111110 May, 1728.
Widow of William Newell, Sen., of Welshpool, tobacconist
and malster, who died in 1726, and mother of William,
Joseph, Thomas, Edward and Robert Newell or Newill, of
Welshpool, Shrewsbury and Dolgelley. They were hereditary
burgesses of Shrewsbury, and descended from Richard Newell
of Worthen, time of Henry VIII. Mrs. Sarah Newell, in her
Will, dated May ,7th, 1728 (the day previous to her death),
bequeaths various houses in Welshpool to her sons, the
Pack Horse and houses in Mount Street being included. This
Will is now in the possession of the Rev. J. Gilbertson-
Pritchard of Morben and Lytham, who is also a descendant,
through his great grandmother, Sarah Newell (who married
David Pritchard in 1793), of William and Sarah Newell of
Welshpool. There is a large stone over No. 4, Broad Street,
inscribed - N.W. S. i.e., W. and S. Newell, 1721.

http://welshjournals.llgc.org.uk/browse/viewpage/llgc-id:1238716/llgc-id:1240100/llgc-id:1240196/getText

Shropshire registers. Check Worthen and Pontesbury:

http://www.melocki.org.uk/MelockiSalop.html
Newel/Newell/Newall
Hanlon of Tralee & Birmingham
Halford of Halford, Tredington & Alscott
Venour of Warwickshire
Fountain(e) of Cranfield, Bedfordshire
Brindley of Lapley area, Staffordshire
Bailey of Birmingham
Jenkinson of Norfolk or Suffolk

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Re: The Newells of Presteigne (and Welshpool/Newtown?)
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 18 June 14 23:43 BST (UK) »
There was a Charlie Newell that owned the hardware / ironmonger shop in Presteigne .... I used to go in there as a child
Thanks for the post.  Charlie was the last of the Newells to run the ironmongers - much of the stock is in the Judge's Lodging Museum.