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John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« on: Sunday 07 March 10 03:52 GMT (UK) »
My ancestor William Row(e) was baptised 25/12/1816 at East Lambrooke Somerset, to parents John Row and Mary Row

2 younger siblings are noted - Thomas Row baptised 22/7/1821 (East Lambrooke) and Robert Row baptised 15/6/1823 (East Lambrooke).

The 1841 Census at Kingsbury Episcopi shows John Row (45), Mary Row (50) and sons Thomas and Robert (both noted as being 15 on this Census).

I am trying to find the Wedding date of John Row and Mary ? and if there were any siblings older than William Row.

Would appreciate any help.
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 May 10 23:57 BST (UK) »
I have found a marriage at Martock:-

Date 7 Nov 1814

John Rowe of Kingsbury Episcopi to Mary Seward.


1851-
John Row H mar 55 Fruit dealer b.Kingsbury Somerset.
Mary Row W mar. 66 b. Kingsbury


1841  - in Kingsbury Episcopi

Malichi Row age 20 ag.lab. (maybe another son?) b.Kingsbury on 1861 census.
  Sarah Row 20
Aurther Row 2

Malichi Row married Sarah Lock Jun qtr.1839 Langport.

also Matthew Rowe b.1818 Kingsbury on the 1881 census.
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #2 on: Friday 07 May 10 17:04 BST (UK) »
12th july 1818 kingsbury episcopi malachi row baptised parents listed as john row and mary
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 May 10 21:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for this.

It has really helped me with my search.
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #4 on: Friday 10 February 17 10:27 GMT (UK) »
John Row(e) is my 3x great grandfather.

Your William Row(e) b1816 had a further sibling Robert b1823.

William’s wife had forenames Mary Elizabeth but I don’t know her maiden name.

I believe that John Row’s father was William Row, who was a cordwainer of Kingsbury Epicopi, who was married to Martha Northover in Cerne Abbas, Dorset, in 1777.

The only child that I have from your William is Eliza Rowe b1845 d1930 in West Lambrook.

Can you fill in any gaps for me?
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #5 on: Friday 24 February 17 17:27 GMT (UK) »
Following on from the above:

Re William Row from Kingsbury Episcopi, cordwainer, married by licence at Cerne Abbas in 1777.

Extensive searches have failed to show William Row's baptism.
His age was not given at death, poor, in 1791, in Kingsbury Episcopi.

All potential births of a William Row in Somerset have been of infant mortalities or too early a date.
Apprenticeship records were destroyed at Exeter in WW2.

Any help or ideas?

Bruce42
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #6 on: Friday 24 February 17 18:07 GMT (UK) »
burial record doesnt help it just states william row buried 19th june 1791 st martins kingsbury episcopi.
wonder if his wifes burial helps?
martha row aged 74 years buried 23rd may 1831 st martins kingsbury episcopi. making her birth c 1757 assuming william was around the same age birth c 1757 ish
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #7 on: Friday 24 February 17 22:28 GMT (UK) »
Many thanks, but I have found nothing around that time.  One school of thought is that a typical male marrying age was 25 at this time, so putting a birth as around 1752, but nothing then either.

Two 'possibles' have clearly been followed rapidly by deaths of the same.

Of course, he may have been much older than his wife.  After a seven year apprenticeship, he had to be at least 21 and considerably more if he was an established cordwainer.

I think that he must have travelled the relatively long distance from Kingsbury to Cerne Abbas for raw materials; there were tanneries there and most probably a market for Cordovan leather from Spain.

Maybe Martha was the innkeeper's daughter.....

Many thanks for any ideas

Bruce42


PS Wiiliam Row(e) was/is a very common name further west in Cornwall especially but I have conscientiously avoided straying from Somerset; proof of an attachment to any one would be impossible.
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Re: John and Mary ROW of Kingsbury Episcopi
« Reply #8 on: Friday 24 February 17 22:33 GMT (UK) »
PS Martha Northover was born in Cerne Abbas 7 March 1760 - hence the need for a licence.  (She was most probably pregnant.)

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Bruce42
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