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Robert and Charles MANFIELD/MANSFIELD
« on: Monday 08 March 10 03:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I'm looking for anyone who has a connection with the name Mansfield/Manfield (Robert or Charles) in the Tasmanian and Perth areas.  Robert and Charles were both transported in 1850/51.  Robert to Western Australia and Charles to Van Dieman's Land.

Thanks
Kathy
Howell- Bristol
Dalziel - Cornwall/Scotland
Hopes - Bitton/Bristol
Wiltshire - Bath
Honey - Cornwall
Ireland - Durham/Scotland
Ellis - Hanham, Bristol
McCaffery - Durham/Ireland
Bant - St Teath, Cornwall

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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #1 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:01 GMT (UK) »
Hi
These marriages are fronm WA.


MANSFIELD, ROBERT to CUNNINGHAM, CATHERINE in MIDDLE SWAN reg. 1089 year  1857

MANSFIELD, ROBERT T W to MATTHEWS,  HARRIET H in  PERTH   reg. 4143 year 1876

Possibly both ( ???or neither) relate to your  man.

http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/W/wa_registry_indexes.aspx

Sue
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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #2 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue,

Yes, I saw those and I may be on to something as I ordered the cert and the name of the grooms father is the same, but no reference to being a convict or from UK, so still unsure.

Cheers
Kathy
Howell- Bristol
Dalziel - Cornwall/Scotland
Hopes - Bitton/Bristol
Wiltshire - Bath
Honey - Cornwall
Ireland - Durham/Scotland
Ellis - Hanham, Bristol
McCaffery - Durham/Ireland
Bant - St Teath, Cornwall

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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #3 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:20 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Was it the marriage to CATHERINE CUNNINGHAM  that you ordered?

You will also have seen this no doubt.


DEATH
MANSFIELD, ROBERT PHILIP  age 41. father ROBERT CUNNINGHAM mother  CATHERINE WEST AUST reg.  2613 Year 1905

There is  Death for a possible ROBERT on the indexes as well as one for CATHERINE MANSFIELD

As she outlived him, it is possible she informed on his death certificate and may have given correct information.

All this of course assuming he is the right man /right couple at all!!
Sue.

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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #4 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:23 GMT (UK) »
This may help you in knowing what may be expected on certificates in WA

http://www.jaunay.com/bdm.html

Sue
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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #5 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:26 GMT (UK) »
Sue,

Thanks, I have seen that.  Most frustrating because I wanted the marriage cert to give me a reference to being a convict, but no.  Trying to find some way of connecting this  Robert and the one I want.  Thought if I found relatives they may be aware.

Cheers
Kathy
Howell- Bristol
Dalziel - Cornwall/Scotland
Hopes - Bitton/Bristol
Wiltshire - Bath
Honey - Cornwall
Ireland - Durham/Scotland
Ellis - Hanham, Bristol
McCaffery - Durham/Ireland
Bant - St Teath, Cornwall

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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #6 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:28 GMT (UK) »
That's helpful, Sue.  That tells me that the death cert would stat place of birth, which would confirm. 
Howell- Bristol
Dalziel - Cornwall/Scotland
Hopes - Bitton/Bristol
Wiltshire - Bath
Honey - Cornwall
Ireland - Durham/Scotland
Ellis - Hanham, Bristol
McCaffery - Durham/Ireland
Bant - St Teath, Cornwall

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Re: Manfield/Mansfield
« Reply #7 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:35 GMT (UK) »
YEs,
Of course it depends on how informed the informant was and how truthfl the informant wished to be. ???

Do any of the given names of the many children to the couple give a clue to the parental names {which you have,but we do not} :D :D

sue
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Re: Robert and Charles MANFIELD/MANSFIELD
« Reply #8 on: Monday 08 March 10 04:45 GMT (UK) »
yes, names William, Thomas, Mary, john are in the family too but are also popular names - but hoped to find more significant people from his past (charles, anthony were his cousins and co-convicts) - maybe he wanted to forget them.
Howell- Bristol
Dalziel - Cornwall/Scotland
Hopes - Bitton/Bristol
Wiltshire - Bath
Honey - Cornwall
Ireland - Durham/Scotland
Ellis - Hanham, Bristol
McCaffery - Durham/Ireland
Bant - St Teath, Cornwall