James KENNEDY and Jane MURRAY - COMPLETED

[JacknSof]

From digitised Passenger List at NSW State Records:-
Ship "Devon" Departed  Plymouth 12/12/1880
Arrived Sydney 28/03/1881
MURRAY, Francis,  25, Laborer (sic) Fermanagh, RC
Murray, Elizabeth, 22,  wife,  Lancashire.
I have ordered the death certificate of Francis from which I hope I can confirm the marriage of 1880 in Wharfedale, West Riding, Yorkshire which is adjoining Lancashire County is my Francis and Elizabeth.

[tropicalj]

Well hopefully  the death certificate will prove to be the correct one
I just had a look at the shipping record and  Francis Murray has his mother as Mary Murray  no fathers name shown
Elizabeth has her parents as James and Mary Thompson

kind thoughts
Jenn

[JacknSof]

Thanks Jenn


Regards
Jack

[JacknSof]

Have finally received NSW death registration transcription of Francis Murray.
D.O.D 14 may 1903 Bowraville NSW
Farmer aged  - 49
Place of Birth - Innes Killen (sic) Ireland
Time in Aust Colonies - 23years NSW
Fathers name - Francis Murray
Mother - Mary Barry
Place of Marriage - Ilkey, Ireland (Transcribers note; Place of Marriage clearly recorded)
Age at Marriage- 25
Spouse - Elizabeth Thompson
Children - Mary A 19, Rose 17, Isabelle 15, Travers 13, Annie A 11, James W 9, Jane 6, living, 2 males Deceased.
Informant - John O'Donnell, Nephew, Bowraville NSW
Queries: Can not find Birth of Rose on NSW BMD. Travers I believe to be Francis #25667/1889. Annie A on NSW index is listed as Arinda, wrongly transcribed? Can only find one death, Charles J #19623/1898 - #841/1899. Any reason the nephew was the informant and not the wife?
Are these the same couple that came out on the Devon in 1881?
Also can not find the death of Elizabeth Murray (Thompson) in NSW or Qld.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.


Jack

[tropicalj]

Hello Jack

the death certificate has helped you along a bit

where does it say he Francis Murray was buried??

It is possible the Elizabeth Murray nee Thompson may have remarried.

Interesting that his nephew was the informant...h may not hace clear knowledge of where the couple did marry.

If you are willing to buy the birth certificate of one of the chuldren this should also where and when the couple married.

Also a nephew...so more of his family came out to Australia  more family to find.

Also noted no mention of Jane on the death certificate?? 
Jenn

[JacknSof]

Hi Jenn
Francis Murray is buried at Bowraville cemetery. Minister was Father Sheehan, Roman Catholic  which indicates he was Roman Catholic and would be in the Catholic section, if his cemetery  is segregated.
Francis died of Brights disease, pneumonia, perhaps Elizabeth was ill as well, so the nephew supplied the details.
My thoughts also that Elizabeth may have remarried. On Jane's marriage certificate (1915) only her father is noted as being deceased. As Francis the son and Annie are listed as witnesses at the marriage may be the family moved to the Nanango Qld area. It was a timber district in those days.
How do you search when a woman gets remarried, enter the current married name or the maiden name?
Jane is listed on the death certificate aged 6. ( just before living  )
My thoughts also re copy of birth certificate. Will order Jane's as she is the direct descendant.
Will try and find more info on nephew to see if he belongs to the Murray or Thompson side of the family.
Kind Regards
Jack

[JacknSof]

It appears John O'Donnell's mother was a Murray.
Birth - John O'Donnell 9942/1866  Macleay River NSW.
Father -John O'Donnell - Mother - Rose Murray.
Marriage - John O'Donnell - Rose Murray 745/1861 Sydney NSW
The most prominent town is South West Rocks at the mouth of the river with Kempsey now days being the main local government centre.  It is not a great distance (60-70 km.) from this area to Bowraville.
I have ordered the birth certificate of Jane ,which is transcribed in the NSW birth index as MURRY.
Is there any way of looking up the parents names of Rose O;Donnell/Murray with out purchasing a certificate?

Jack

[JacknSof]

Birth Transcription of Jane Murray (recorded as Murry on Index and Register) finally received.
D.ob. 25/05/1896
Father: Francis Murray - aged 43, born Fernanagh, Ireland
Mother : Elisy Thompson - aged 40, born Bernely, England (Transcribers note , clearly recorded as Bernely )
Married 24/05/1879, Midland Lodge, Ilkey, England.
Informant - Father, Francis Murry (also mispelt).
Also list siblings which match up with those found on NSW BMD Index.
I believe Bernely to be Burnley,, Lancashire.
Jenn,
The ships passenger list for the Devon in 1881 appears correct but the marriage in Wharfedale, Yorkshire in 1880 does not appear to be them.
The only thing now is I still can not find the death of Elizabeth ( Elizy) Murray ( Murry) in either NSW or Qld.
Any assistance would be appreciated.

[JacknSof]

I now believe the marriage in Wharfedale is in fact that of my Francis and Elizabeth as suggested by Jenn, ref  #Wharferb/8/75 . Old maps show Burnley is in the Wharfedale District which is close to Leeds.
I also believe Elizabeth was baptised at St Peters, Leeds 1858 ref #CE46/53/428 and parents are James Thompson and Mary King ( which match up with shipping records).
I now have the birth details of James Kennedy with his parents being Robert Kennedy, Belfast, Co. Antrim, Ireland and Mary Niven, Daly, Ayrshire, Scotland.
The only missing link is finding the death of Elizabeth Murray (nee Thompson) which I shall pursue at a later date.
A BIG thank you to all that have assisted is this search.

Kind regards to all.

Jack