Author Topic: Balfours  (Read 8900 times)

Offline denmylne

  • I am sorry but my email address is no longer working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 13
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #9 on: Monday 29 March 10 03:51 BST (UK) »
I intend to restore it. Im am upgrading the house next to it, where I live,  at the moment, but eventually I plan to start on the tower. It is actually in a lot better state than it looks, I have removed the tree from inside and the the rest of the vegitation has been knocked down with round up, This isnt a commercial enterprise, just a labour of love

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline denmylne

  • I am sorry but my email address is no longer working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 13
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #10 on: Monday 29 March 10 04:09 BST (UK) »
I cant find anything in the sherrif deeds for fife concerning balfours and ferry port, the name kirkcaldie seems more attached to the otherside of fife, pilmuir or dunfermline etc, I think you will need to have a look at the old parish records in fife, which unfortunatly are not online. Ill bear this name in mind when I next do a search and will post something here if I find something. sorry I cant be of more help

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline sidsmith

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 312
  • Still Searching
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #11 on: Monday 29 March 10 05:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Denmylne
Ferry Port on Craig is now known as Tayport and is about 3 1/2 miles across the Tay from Dundee in Fife
regards
sid
SMITH.. Cellardyke, Fife, Scotland
GERRARD ..Pittenweem, St Monance, Fife
DEWAR..Kikcaldy.. Fife
CRICHTON...Fife
GRUBB .. Crail, Fife
HAMILTON .. St Andrews and St Leonards, Fife
BALFOUR, Ferry Port on Craig, Fife
WATT ..  Cellardyke
PROUDFOOT & CRAWFORD.. Torryburn Fife
EISEN   PHILLIPS, WISEMAN ..Sth Australia
CRICHTON Victoria,Aust.
WISEMAN..Barrow, Suffolk
VANT.. Yorkshire & Kent

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 20,884
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #12 on: Monday 29 March 10 07:31 BST (UK) »
I intend to restore it. Im am upgrading the house next to it, where I live,  at the moment, but eventually I plan to start on the tower. It is actually in a lot better state than it looks, I have removed the tree from inside and the the rest of the vegitation has been knocked down with round up, This isnt a commercial enterprise, just a labour of love

I wish you the best of luck! I'm glad the tower has survived the removal of the tree and other vegetation. Please keep us up to date with your progress. Well done! You are to be commended and I am just a teensy bit jealous!!!!!!  ;D

And to get back on topic - regarding my lone Balfour -:
James Balfour, shoemaker, living Meinside, Middlebie, had 2 daughters there in 1803 and 1806 - no other known children. Married Helen/Nellie/Ellenor Brown date and place unknown. Nothing found on SP. Nothing further known about James. If any Balfour researchers come across this family or can link their Balfours with James, I would be very happy to hear from you.  :)

Offline denmylne

  • I am sorry but my email address is no longer working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 13
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 31 March 10 03:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Ruskie, feel free to bring along a trowel, the tower will need several tons of lime mortar just to consolidate it

anyways, I managed to get a hold of Sir Andrew Balfours will and testament........NIGHTMARE???... It looks like its been written in hiroglyphics
this will take a while just to work out what is written.
In 1694, people would spell their own names in a variety of ways, In the same sentence???
I may be some time......

Offline Ruskie

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 20,884
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 31 March 10 05:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that Ruskie, feel free to bring along a trowel, the tower will need several tons of lime mortar just to consolidate it

I would love to!  ;) Next time I'm in your neck of the woods I will. No need to give me your address - I'm sure I'll be able to find it.  ;D But as I live in Australia it's not going to be any time soon, so don't bother putting the kettle on just yet. Your story brings this to mind: http://www.rootschat.com/links/08bt/ Though it's not what I would have done with the place - it's over restored to my mind.  ;)

Why don't you post Sir Andrew's will here on rootschat? There are some experts in reading old handwriting who I'm sure will be pleased to help.

If you go to the bar towards the top of the rootschat page and select [Forum], the fourth topic/subject heading is "Deciphering & Recognition Help". You can post the will here. I believe you are not allowed to post the whole document in one go, due to copyright issues, so you'll have to post it in sections of two or three or whatever you feel appropriate depending on the length of the will.

Good luck!

Offline denmylne

  • I am sorry but my email address is no longer working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 13
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 31 March 10 13:55 BST (UK) »
Yeah, I was that grand designs, but that was a much bigger property than denmylne, and much newer, I didnt like what he had done either, it was filled inside with breeze blocks if i remember correctly and had an open room with a lounge on the top floor with one side of the roof missing. Denmylne fully restored would have only 4 bedrooms, as per its original state.

Thanks for the pointer with the translation of andrew balfours will, Ill post it online when i get a min tonight

Offline denmylne

  • I am sorry but my email address is no longer working
  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 13
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours ferry port
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 02 May 10 01:36 BST (UK) »
Hi SID
after a bit of research, I think if you dig you will find that the ferry port balfours nearest estate was Grange, this was one of the last aquisitions by the balfours of mountwhanney, there is a grange near denmlyne which may cause confusion, but if you look at Blaeu map of 1654 you will see that the estate of grange borders where the ferry port is now, i would look here

The translation of Sir andrews will is ongoing but ill post here any info i find, thanks for all the pointers guys

denmylne

Offline sidsmith

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 312
  • Still Searching
    • View Profile
Re: Balfours
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 02 May 10 12:28 BST (UK) »
Hi denmylne
Thanks for map details, it points to where my Balfours are from and its a pity that I can't find any more BMD records at the moment, but will keep trying.
I hope you have better luck with your will translation.
sid
SMITH.. Cellardyke, Fife, Scotland
GERRARD ..Pittenweem, St Monance, Fife
DEWAR..Kikcaldy.. Fife
CRICHTON...Fife
GRUBB .. Crail, Fife
HAMILTON .. St Andrews and St Leonards, Fife
BALFOUR, Ferry Port on Craig, Fife
WATT ..  Cellardyke
PROUDFOOT & CRAWFORD.. Torryburn Fife
EISEN   PHILLIPS, WISEMAN ..Sth Australia
CRICHTON Victoria,Aust.
WISEMAN..Barrow, Suffolk
VANT.. Yorkshire & Kent