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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 03 November 11 02:12 GMT (UK) »
Hope it's useful to you.  Do you have much information on the Carten's?  I'd love to know the parents of Alice and Elizabeth...I'd also like to know if Alice and Elizabeth were sisters.

Thanks!

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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #28 on: Thursday 03 November 11 02:55 GMT (UK) »
I have an Eliza or Elizabeth Carton born about 1843, County Wicklow, Parents are Ralph Carton and Mary (Possibly nee Warren, Niel or Harmen).

I have Alice Carten, daughter fo David Carten, born 1850 in County Down.

I also have a Catherine Carton who had a daughter and named her Alice. Catherine names her father as Ralph Carton of County Wicklow, on her marriage licence but we have not yet found her birth.

To add to the confusion I think there are two Catherine Carton's born about the same time, in County Wicklow. Are they cousin's?

I cannot put your Alice and Elizabeth together, sorry. Very Interesting that Alice Carten had a son called Ralph! :)
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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #29 on: Friday 04 November 11 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi everyone!
I, too, have an interest in the Carton family of Co Wicklow. My g'g'grandfather Patrick Courtney married Mary Carton in Ashford Co Wicklow in 1868. Mary listed her father as Ralph. Their second son John was born in Brockagh, Co Wicklow in 1871 which is where Ralph Carton lived.
I have bapt records from www.rootsireland.ie for Cecilia Carton 1840; Eliza 1843 both with parents Ralph Carton & Mary Warren. There is also a Bridget Carton 1850 with parents Ralph Carton & Mary Fegan, tho' one of the sponsors is also Mary Fegan. Also in 1853 Ellenor Carton has parents Ralph Carton & Mary Neil.
Cecilia, Bridget & Ellenor were all bapt in Glendalough while Eliza in Arklow. I too, am unable to find any bapt or birth records for either Catherine or Mary.
There is a bapt record for Catherine Carten in Co Wicklow 1829, parents Ralph Carten & Catherine Gees, but I don't think it's the same Ralph as it's the Ralph Carton I'm interested in and he was born approx 1812 according to his death cert.  Ralph Caten and Catherine Gees also had a son John, bapt 1831 and Ralph & Catherine married in 1826.If anyone has any info on Mary Born approx 1841 or Catherine born  approx 1852 I would be very grateful.
All help appreciated, Bren

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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #30 on: Saturday 05 November 11 08:52 GMT (UK) »
So then, to add a new dimention to this Carton Quest, does anyone know who the father of Ralph Carton born about 1812 was and where was Ralph born?

I have the years bet 1812 - 1815 as well but I cannot find a place.

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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #31 on: Saturday 05 November 11 09:57 GMT (UK) »
From www.rootsireland.ie I purchased a marriage record for Ralph Carton. This record shows he married Mary Harman in Glendalough on 31 Aug 1831. Unfortunately it does not show either of their parents names and the only other information it contains are the names of the witnesses, John Fleming and Anne Doyle.
This is not a copy of the original record and I was wondering if anyone actually has a copy or has seen the actual record or perhaps has any other record with both parents names recorded.. I have this idea in mind that perhaps Mary's name was transcribed incorrectly from Warren to Harman seeing as both Cecilia and Eliza's bapt records have Mary Warren as their mother. Just an idea!
All help appreciated, Bren

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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #32 on: Saturday 05 November 11 10:07 GMT (UK) »
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This record shows he married Mary Harman in Glendalough on 31 Aug 1831. Unfortunately it does not show either of their parents names and the only other information it contains are the names of the witnesses, John Fleming and Anne Doyle.
This is not a copy of the original record and I was wondering if anyone actually has a copy or has seen the actual record or perhaps has any other record with both parents names recorded..

Early parish marriage records like this dont usually include any more details than those you have mentioned.

e.g. three marriages from www.irishgenealogy.ie on the same date in various parts of Ireland - one Church of Ireland , two RC : marriages 31/Aug/1831 
You can view an image of the register for the one in St. Mary's, Dublin



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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 06 November 11 01:31 GMT (UK) »
I have a baptism certificate from www.rootsireland.ie for

Catherine Carton
baptism/birth: 1 Nov 1850
Address: Kingston
Parish: Rathdrum
Denomination: Roman Catholic
Father: James Carton
Mother: Catherine
Sponsor: William Dillion
Sponsor: 2 Anne Doyle

Does this help anyone?

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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 06 November 11 01:45 GMT (UK) »
phiona, should that be 1850? I see Anne Doyle features again.
All help appreciated, Bren

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Re: Kavanagh and Carton of Brockage Wicklow
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 November 11 13:28 GMT (UK) »
Anyone got a Laurence Carton in their lineage?

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