William Moffat- a shepherd, married Helen Rentoul in 1799 at Temple Midlothian Banns also Lasswade and Innerleithen.
Their daughter Helen Moffat born 1816 at Buckholm- Williamlaw farm Melrose. She married John Murray born 1822 in Selkirk.
Also reseaching William Murray, also a shepherd, and Elizabeth Mitchell both of Stow Midlothian, and Thorneylees Farm Melrose/Innerleithen.
Found John Murray & Helen Moffat in the 1851 Census quite some time ago, so am updating that info here in case anyone else is researching this family.
At Thorneylee (a Farm by Innerleithen on the road to Melrose & Gala) was: William Moffat ..widower of Helen Rentoul , (married 1799 at Lasswade- of Temple)
William Moffat - Widower age 72 Shepherd (Lab) born Cavers Rox -Father William
Isabella Moffat Unm 34 Daughter Selkirk Yarrow
Helen Moffat (Mrs Murray) age 32 Daughter Melrose -Williamlees- Williamlaw Farm Buckholm
Helen Rathie 7 Helen's daughter ist marriage..born Innerleithen
James Murray 2 months Helen's son to husband John Murray. born Selkirk
Baby James was cited on the census as Infant Rathie......which is entirely incorrect.
James Murray above born 1851 married Christian Stewart in Selkirk , they had many children there.
One of their children- married Helen Edwards in Selkirk. Helen was the daughter of a famous photographer in Selkirkshire.
Helen Moffat was stopping with her father William Moffat and sister Isabella after the birth of baby James Murray.
John Murray, Helen's husband was in Selkirk lodging and working there at the time the census was taken.
Helen Moffat's mother was Helen Rintoul ( Helen Rentoul ? ) who was deceased by 1841.
William Moffat and Helen Rentoul had many children ...some baptised at Traquair...some in Yarrow Selkirkhire... others @ Innerleithen and more at Melrose.
William Moffat married Helen Rentoul at Innerleithen in October 1799 also banns Temple Midlothian and also banns @ Lasswade. As he was a Shepherd he was in various areas during those periods.
Also seemingly related and living with the Moffat family at Thorneylees in 1841 and 1851 is William Murray born same era as William Moffat, also a Shepherd with him. William Murray was born in Channelkirk in 1776. He married Elizabeth Mitchell and also had many children in Peebles SHire Stow and Selkirk. Some were stone wall dykers.
None are listed in the IGI as they were dissenters from the Lawson Associate Kirk however I have traced many of them if anyone is interested.
We are trying to find out if there is a relationship between both of these Murray families.
John Murray who married Helen Moffat ,was born 1822/3 to James Murray Inkleweaver and Elizabeth Hall both of Selkirk.
If anyone is researching this family, please contact me.
Alexandrina Murray (Sydney Australia)
