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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #27 on: Monday 02 August 10 12:20 BST (UK) »
Hi

also sent in a pm 4/7/10


There is no obvious PCC will or a will held at the LMA for a John Green died circa 1825 - there could be one at the Guildhall - their wills though indexed are not online. He could of course have died outside London.


e.g. from the Gentleman's Magazine of 1825 a possibility though not of the City of London

August 20th 1825
At Ramsgate, aged 65, John Green, esq. late of New Bond-street, London

and this webpage on him which is very lucky?

http://www.achievements.co.uk/news/index.php?year=2002&month=9&id=7

Sacred to the memory of John Green Esq.of London
born in Hull 6th April 1760: died at Ramsgate 20th August 1825

(this research company look to have done further background work on this man and his family and may have produced a tree etc)

baptism in Hull 11th June 1760 for a John Green with a father John Green

also a sister

ANN GREEN 
Christening:  08 APR 1761   Holy Trinity, Kingston Upon Hull, Yorkshire
Father:  JOHN GREEN 

If this John left a will, since he died in Kent it may be with the Kent Record Office.


The Lady's Magazine is extremely useful and creates a real breakthrough (though I've no idea where the marriage took place though)


10 November 1787
John Green esq of Great Tower-hill, to Miss Harriet Staniforth of Broad-street Buildings

which leads to these two very late baptisms both on 23rd April 1836 Saint Mary Magdalen, Richmond, Surrey


Betsy Staniforth daughter of Charles and Ann, London, father's occupation merchant born 22nd May 1765
Harriet Staniforth daughter of Charles and Ann, London, father's occupation merchant born 26th August 1767


which leads you to this PCC will

Will of Charles Staniforth, Merchant of Broad Street Buildings London 13 September 1797 PROB 11/1296

and this will

Will of Betsey Staniforth of Walmer, Kent 31 December 1847 PROB 11/2066
 

and these censuses


1841 census HO107 470/17 folio 50
3 R N H Buildings Walmer Kent
Betsey Staniforth 70 Ind not born Kent
Seraphina Green 45 Ind born Kent
John T Green 15 not born Kent
plus 3 servants

Deaths Dec 1861   
Green  Seraphina    Eastry  2a 429


1851 census HO107 1631 folio 651
Albion Terrace Deal Kent
Eleanor Green 60 Head Unmarried Fundholder London
Seraphina Green 59 Sister Unmarried Fundholder Blackheath Kent
Mary Pay 35 Servant Unmarried House servant Brown? Sussex

Mary Pay the house servant is important as she proves where Eleanor is in 1841.

1861 census RG9 544 folio
65 Strand Walmer 47
Eleanor Green 70 Head Unmarried Fundholder London
Seraphina Green 69 Sister Unmarried Fundholder Kent
plus 3 servants one of which is
Mary Pay 45 Servant Unmarried House servant Sussex


and these baptisms

ELEANOR GREEN
Birth:  22 APR 1790   
Christening:  27 MAY 1790   Saint Olave Hart Street, London
Father:  JOHN GREEN 
Mother:  HARRIOT 

AUGUSTA GREEN
Birth:  16 AUG 1788   
Christening:  15 SEP 1788   Saint Olave Hart Street, London
Father:  JOHN GREEN   
Mother:  HARRIOTT


There is a burial for Harriet Green at Kensal Green cemetery 6th February 1837. This Harriet was aged 69 from Twickenham Middlesex (under 2 miles from Richmond Surrey across the river Thames). If it is her than she is likely to have been buried in a purchased grave and Kensal Green cemetery should be able to tell you who is buried with her. Kensal Green cemetery opened in 1834.


1841 census HO107 658/10 folio 49
Montpelin? Row Twickenham Middlesex
Eleanor Green 50 Ind born Middlesex
Mary Pay 25 F S not born Middlesex


and finally back to the Staniforths and maybe the John Green baptism in Hull. There is only one Charles Staniforth marriage to an Ann on the IGI - it doesn't of course make it the right one just because the IGI has it, but it is an interesting coincidence of names - bearing in mind of course Green is a very common surname.

CHARLES STANIFORTH
ANN GREEN 
Marriage:  04 AUG 1763   Batley, Yorkshire

Batley is over 60 miles from Hull which is in the east Riding of Yorkshire as Batley would be I think in the West Riding.


Googling Charles Staniforth you get information like this concerning his son John

House of Commons 1790-1820 volume 1
John Staniforth (died 1830) of Norton Hall Suffolk

s of Charles Staniforth, merchant of Broad Street Buildings London and Kingston-upon-Hull Yorks married  Jan
1793 Miss Pitts of Bridlington Quay Yorks at least 1s 1 da suc fa 1797
Dir Bank of Eng 1807-1819
asst Levant Company 1817 ...........


Regards

Valda
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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 08 August 10 20:31 BST (UK) »
Valda thank you very much for the above. It is very helpful.

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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #29 on: Friday 23 October 15 10:30 BST (UK) »
Just linking to this topic (possibly) on the same Green family.

Edward Frederick Green, Painter of Portraits and Exotic topics
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733406.new;topicseen#new

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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #30 on: Friday 23 October 15 20:40 BST (UK) »
Thanks Sarah for including me.
Edward Frederick Green was the 5th son of John & Harriet Green He was the Vice Consul in Tunis. b.11 Jan 1801 Bap 14 Jul 1801 d 1884, from family records
He married 2 Jun 1840 in Malta to Catherine Colona Stilton. I have only found one child for them Melita Jane Green b 30 April 1841 Tunis.
The 7th son James Moring Green Vice Consul in Naples was a well known artist but I had not heard that EFG was also an artist. The Green family were prominent in The Levant Co: & the Consular Service receiving many decorations.
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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 11 November 15 14:20 GMT (UK) »
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=733406.new;topicseen#new

Hi Vesta,

There has been another reply on the topic for you.  If you can click on the notify button on the other topic Vesta it will let you know when there has been another reply :)

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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 05 November 17 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

I am a descendant of Philip James Green, Esquire, British Consul for the Morea and I was wondering if anyone could assist me in tracking down his ancestors. Also I have in my archives a substantial amount of detailed information relating to Philips descendants and those of his brother and sister, so if anyone wishes for assistance in that regard I am more than willing to help however I can.

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Alexander

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Re: John Harry/Henry Green
« Reply #33 on: Monday 06 November 17 10:40 GMT (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat Alexander, Vesta has been notified of your reply.

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