Author Topic: Convict details  (Read 2472 times)

Offline Suzy W

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,271
  • The only way forward is backwards
    • View Profile
Convict details
« on: Wednesday 28 April 10 22:46 BST (UK) »
Hi all.

My eyes can only make out so much of the old hand writing.   Would love any help with what he stole etc.

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON33-1-40,305,83,L,80

Also his soon to be wife records.

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON41-1-19,146,30,L,80

Cheers
Suzy W
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline patrish

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 6,806
  • Winter Wonderland
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 28 April 10 23:00 BST (UK) »
Looks to me as if William Fleet stole 50 sovereigns and Collins stole shirts
this information is Crown Copyright. from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk   London Hall, Thurston Stanley, Phillips, Ayrton, White, Morrish, Smith.    West Ham/Barking Saint,Briggs,   Essex  Barker,   Hampshire  Kill, Kent Spong,   U.S.A Earp, Scotland/Cumbria Templeton, Devon Morrish, Chudley

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline kerry1212

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,441
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 28 April 10 23:08 BST (UK) »
the wifes is allowing smoking in dormitory

kerry
tustin,harrison,blizzard,bradshaw

warwickshire birmingham staffs

Offline Suzy W

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,271
  • The only way forward is backwards
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 28 April 10 23:35 BST (UK) »
50 Sovereigns, no wonder he got 15 years hard labor.   People were sent over to Australia for a piece of bread.  No wonder he was not hung.
Tough time back then.

Suzy W
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add

Offline Suzy W

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,271
  • The only way forward is backwards
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 April 10 01:28 BST (UK) »
What I can make out with Sibby's conviction so far.
Stealing shirts, three convictions.  Gaol Upost?
Single.  ?? This offence stealing shirts 6 months for ? 3 months for breaking gla? discharged ? for clothes

William's is so hard to read.  What I can make out so far.
House break in, stealing 50 sovereign caught in. 2 years for assault. Single

Suzy W
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,537
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 April 10 06:55 BST (UK) »
There's some info on a William Fleet who married Sibby Collins here http://coad.neuf.fr/names.htm
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 15,537
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 April 10 07:09 BST (UK) »
Per William Fleet's indent he stole 50 sovereigns 15 shillings and 5d. His father was Wm Dibden "I am a chance child" mother Lucy Fleet - can't read the rest of it ........something about Louisa?

http://search.archives.tas.gov.au/ImageViewer/image_viewer.htm?CON14-1-22,230,35,L,80

Gets a mentuon on this Dibden site - see William (Fleet) Dibden http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/dibden_onename/misc-births.html/
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Suzy W

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,271
  • The only way forward is backwards
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 29 April 10 07:54 BST (UK) »
Wow SharnJ, you are brilliant.  How on earth could you make out all that writing, I guess lots of experience.
Will keep you on the books.

Kindest of regards
Suzy W 
TEW family of Leire/Leicester and New Zealand
MERRICKS of Stafford/Birmingham
PENTECOST of Surrey and New Zealand
POTENTIER of France, England and Canada
WATKINS of London and New Zealand
WHITAKER of Guiseley Yorkshire and New Zealand
LYALL, of Dundee, Caithness and New Zealand

And far too many to add

Offline km1971

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 9,343
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Convict details
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 29 April 10 08:30 BST (UK) »
Hi Suzy

He was sentenced to 15 years transportation rather than imprisonment with hard labour. He spent ten months in the hulks before being transported.

Only nine years earlier stealing more than 5 shillings was a capital offence. !843 was the last year the gibbet was used. And housebreaking occured during the hours of daylight. It was burglary after sunset.

I wonder what happened to James Hunsmith (?).

I see that one of his tattoos was of an anchor. This often suggests he was at sea at some stage. You may wish to follow this up.

Ken