Williams - Much Wenlock

[Helen Dann]

My great-grandfather was Thomas WILLIAMS. My father thinks he was born in Much Wenlock. He married Patience Violet JONES in 1907. I thought I'd found him on the 1881 and 1891 censuses - the birthdate and place tied up. The father's name was given as John WILLIAMS. However, today I received the marriage certificate for Thomas WILLIAMS and Patience Violet JONES, which gives Thomas WILLIAMS'S father as Thomas WILLIAMS. Is it at all possible that a mistake could have been made on the marriage certificate? I've failed in all my attempts to track down a definite birth certificate reference for Thomas WILLIAMS and frankly I don't really know what to do next! Any suggestions gratefully received, as I'm really at a dead end here :-/

[JillJ]

Absolutely ANYTHING is possible Helen!   I would suggest you check the information in the marriage certificate against the original Parish Register.

Good luck.

Jill

[Helen Dann]

Right - I'll attempt to do that :-)

[cuckoo]

hi coincidently my ggrandfather was thomas williams oswestry 1839 he had a daughter called maggie who had child violet.and my other family im searching or are dorricotts westbury,my gggrandfather was john dorricott born 1821 westbury,he marry mary from alberbury .

[bristolloggerheads]

I have Ann Kidson bap 1705 Benthall marrying Edward Cynor in 1730 Much Wenlock in my tree. Her father was John Kitson / Gidson also a pipemaker. He may have married Maria Rooden (Roden?) in 1700 in Much Wenlock. Have more info if these are yours.
Peter

[peterjd]

I THINK THESE ARE YOURS CUCKOO


1. Name Thomas WILLIAMS Relationship Head Condition M Gender M Age 43 Occupation Railway Porter Birthplace Oswestry, Shropshire, England Address –, Oswestry Town, Shropshire, England PRO ref RG11/2659 Folio 40 Page 22 FHL film no. 1341638

2. Name Mary WILLIAMS Relationship Wife Condition M Gender F Age 30 Occupation – Birthplace Kings Co., Ireland Address –, Oswestry Town, Shropshire, England PRO ref RG11/2659 Folio 40 Page 22 FHL film no. 134163

3. Name Thomas WILLIAMS Relationship Son Condition U Gender M Age 14 Occupation Chandlers Errand Boy Birthplace Allabad East, India Address –, Oswestry Town, Shropshire, England PRO ref RG11/2659 Folio 40 Page 22 FHL film no. 1341638

4. Name Sarah J. WILLIAMS Relationship Daur Condition U Gender F Age 10 Occupation – Birthplace Allabad East, India Address –, Oswestry Town, Shropshire, England PRO ref RG11/2659 Folio 40 Page 22 FHL film no. 1341638

5. Name Hugh WILLIAMS Relationship Son Condition – Gender M Age 3 Occupation – Birthplace Raudakeek East, India Address –, Oswestry Town, Shropshire, England PRO ref RG11/2659 Folio 40 Page 22 FHL film no. 1341638

6. Name Catherine M. WILLIAMS Relationship Daur Condition – Gender F Age 10 m Occupation – Birthplace Oswestry, Shropshire, England Address –, Oswestry Town, Shropshire, England PRO ref RG11/2659 Folio 40 Page 22 FHL film no. 1341638

[peterjd]

Helen it could be your thomas is right maybe called thomas john and used the john as a first name to stop any confusion ?

[cuckoo]

yes i think they are cant seem to get any birth certs though,dont know where to look for marriage certs for bengal marriages that is my next quest,thanks for help

[peterjd]

cuckoo

you should be able to get Catherine as she was born in oswestry don't know if the rest would have to be register when they returned  but on the TV program who do you think you are one of the TV stars descended were born in India and they were kept in the local towns, why don't you do a search for government dept in India from that town and send them an email you might get lucky and pointed in the right direction as a lot of Indian have English as a second language