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James William Ogden
« on: Saturday 08 May 10 16:33 BST (UK) »
Hi All

I was wondering if anyone could help me, please?
I am looking for James William Ogden. I have his marriage certifcate. He got married in the parish of Camden Town Middlesex in 1884 to Susan Barginall. He was a Widower. His father's name was William.
I also have his death certificate from 1893, aged 54 years in Northampton. Informant was Susan Ogden, widow of the deceased.
I cannot find him on any census returns at all!
I can't find a birth for him either.
I've recently received two birth certificates, which I had thought could be him, but the father on both of them is called James.
If someone could help me, as to what & where to go from here, I would very much appreciate it, thanks,

Mary
MASON - Northampton/Long Buckby
RUSSELL - Leicester
CIVIL - Northampton/Northumberland
SIMPSON - Leicester
HANWELL - Northampton/Long Buckby
BULLIMORE - Northampton/Lincoln
OGDEN - Northampton/London
BARGINALL - London
WRIGHT - Northampton
HILLYARD - Northampton
PICKERING - Northampton
OSBOURNE - Long Buckby
LETTS - Long buckby
LAW - Northampton
SEPPINGS - Norfolk
SIMMONS/SIMONS - Northampton
JOHNSON - Great Houghton, Northants

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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 May 10 16:55 BST (UK) »
There is one James Ogdens born c 1839 on the 1851 & 1861 census' with father William and two on 1871.
Both James' were born in Yorkshire.
I take it that as you have never found James on a census, you don't know where he was born?
Did it have William's occupation on the marriage certificate?
I'm not young enough to know everything.


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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

I was thinking he was either born in Middlesex (marriage took place there)
or Northampton (death there).
I found his wife and family in the 1891 census, living in Northampton, but no sign of him.

His father's occupation on the marriage cert is Shoemaker, deceased.
MASON - Northampton/Long Buckby
RUSSELL - Leicester
CIVIL - Northampton/Northumberland
SIMPSON - Leicester
HANWELL - Northampton/Long Buckby
BULLIMORE - Northampton/Lincoln
OGDEN - Northampton/London
BARGINALL - London
WRIGHT - Northampton
HILLYARD - Northampton
PICKERING - Northampton
OSBOURNE - Long Buckby
LETTS - Long buckby
LAW - Northampton
SEPPINGS - Norfolk
SIMMONS/SIMONS - Northampton
JOHNSON - Great Houghton, Northants

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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:15 BST (UK) »
Neither of the Williams are shoemakers.
Northampton does seem the logical place of birth to me, as it was the shoe factory town... not anymore though.
I'm not young enough to know everything.


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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:23 BST (UK) »

Ok, thanks for that. I was in touch with someone researching the surname, but she didn't seem to think that my William was the same one she had, who was from Chapel Brampton.

I think I will take a chance and order the birth cert for the James Ogden, born in Northampton.

MASON - Northampton/Long Buckby
RUSSELL - Leicester
CIVIL - Northampton/Northumberland
SIMPSON - Leicester
HANWELL - Northampton/Long Buckby
BULLIMORE - Northampton/Lincoln
OGDEN - Northampton/London
BARGINALL - London
WRIGHT - Northampton
HILLYARD - Northampton
PICKERING - Northampton
OSBOURNE - Long Buckby
LETTS - Long buckby
LAW - Northampton
SEPPINGS - Norfolk
SIMMONS/SIMONS - Northampton
JOHNSON - Great Houghton, Northants

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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:25 BST (UK) »
I cannot find Susan Ogden on the 1891 in Northants
I'm not young enough to know everything.


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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:28 BST (UK) »
Ah! I found her in 1901 as niece to Martha Hand
Uum.  Maybe not, it says she is single
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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:29 BST (UK) »
I do appologise, it was the 1901 census i found them on, not 1891
MASON - Northampton/Long Buckby
RUSSELL - Leicester
CIVIL - Northampton/Northumberland
SIMPSON - Leicester
HANWELL - Northampton/Long Buckby
BULLIMORE - Northampton/Lincoln
OGDEN - Northampton/London
BARGINALL - London
WRIGHT - Northampton
HILLYARD - Northampton
PICKERING - Northampton
OSBOURNE - Long Buckby
LETTS - Long buckby
LAW - Northampton
SEPPINGS - Norfolk
SIMMONS/SIMONS - Northampton
JOHNSON - Great Houghton, Northants

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Re: James William Ogden
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 May 10 17:32 BST (UK) »
Got her in 1901 with Arthur & Clara. 
Where are they in 1891???
This is very strange!!
I'm not young enough to know everything.


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