Charles Bond 1823 Where is he?

[dawnsh]

Hi Wendy

Not the answer you were expecting

From the marriage register St Giles in the Field

10th September 1849

Charles Bond, full age, bachelor, Labourer, of Broad Street, father - Bond, Wheelwright

Jemima Adams, full age, spinster, no occ, of Broad Street, father Jonas Adams, Cooper

Married after banns, both signed the register in the presence of Jonas Adams and Mary Ann or Mary Jane something, can't decipher.

Hope this helps.

Dawn

[Aboreal Addict]

Hi  Dawn    Thanks so much for going to find out that for me.

I may be a bit thick  but how are you sure that Jemima is the correct  "wife"  I know that the date and place are correct though.

Is that the only Charles marrying then?   Is that it?
It says that Charles's father was a wheelwright   where I had him as a butcher as on his other sons info.

Wendy.

[dawnsh]

Hi Wendy

I may be a bit thick  but how are you sure that Jemima is the correct  "wife" 

I went to the archives and looked at the actual page of the marriage register on microfilm.

I know that the date and place are correct though.

No you didn't as you don't have a copy of the certificate

Is that the only Charles marrying then?   Is that it?

On that page of the register, there are 4 marriages, he is the only Charles as shown in Valda's reply #3

It says that Charles's father was a wheelwright   where I had him as a butcher as on his other sons info

Maybe this is not "your" Charles Bond

Dawn

[Valda]

Hi

Is this the man you think is Charles' sibling

1881 census RG11 543 folio 47
73 Kinglake Street Newington Surrey
John Bond 62 Head Widower Butcher Newington Surrey
Alice Bond 14 Daughter Newington Surrey
Christina Bond 13 Daughter Newington Surrey
Alfred Bond 11 Son Labourer Newington Surrey
William Bond 10 Son Newington Surrey
Arthur Bond 9 Son Newington Surrey
 
1871 census RG10 729 folio 13
27 Thornhill Square Camberwell Surrey
John Bond 51 Head Married Journeyman Butcher Marylebone Middlesex
Mary A Bond 33 Wife Married Reading Berkshire
John Bond 21 Son Light porter Greenwich Kent
Hector Bond 16 Son Light porter Lambeth Surrey
George Bond 10 Son Dalston Middlesex
Frederick Bond 6 Son Haggerston Middlesex
Alice Bond 4 Daughter Haggerston Middlesex
Christina Bond 3 Daughter Camberwell Surrey
Emily Bond 2 Daughter Camberwell Surrey imbecile from birth
Alfred Bond 1 Son Camberwell Surrey
plus 1 visitor

1861 census RG9 235 folio 84
11 Curtain Road Shoreditch Middlesex
John Bond 41 Head Married Butchers journeyman Middlesex
Elizabeth Bond 23 Wife Married  Middlesex
John Bond 11 Son Greenwich Kent
Hector Bond 6 Son Lambeth Surrey
Sarah Bond 3  Daughter Cripplegate London

1851 census HO107 1557 folio 331
39 George Street Christchurch Southwark
John Bond 32 Head Married Butcher Marylebone Middlesex
Sarah Bond 32 Wife Married Marylebone Middlesex
John Bond 1 Son Greenwich Kent

Possible 1841 census

HO107 733/8 folio 6
Davies Street St George Hanover Square Westminster
In the household of a butcher
John Bond 20 Sh born Middlesex
adult ages, those over 15, usually rounded down to the nearest 5 on the 1841 census.
Sh = shopman


19th February 1867 St Leonard Shoreditch
John Bond 45 Widower Butcher 26 Maidstone Place John Bond Butcher
Mary Ann Leaver 29 Spinster Servant 26 Maidstone Place George Leaver Labourer
Marriage by banns, Mary Ann Made her mark
Witnesses Henry Wilton and the mark of Sarah Tootell


Other John Bond born Marylebone who could be a candidate for the 1819 baptism

1851 census HO107 1478 folio 11
1 George Row St George Hanover Square Westminster
John Bond 32 Head Married Labourer St Marylebone
Anne Bond 40 Wife st Marylebone
Anne Bond 11 Daughter West Drayton
Sopphia Bond 8 Daughter Pimlico


Regards

Valda

[Aboreal Addict]

Hi Valda,  Thanks for your reply,

 Yes you have the correct man in each census.
He was married three times.  The only bit I don't agree with  is the last bit  about an alternative  baptism .

[Valda]

Hi

Considering the two Marylebone baptisms merely list father John as in trade which of course could just as easily be wheelwright as butcher do you have any other evidence that connects John the butcher born Marylebone to the 1819 baptism as opposed to the John in 1851 also born in Marylebone who is equally, in age, spot on for the baptism?


Regards

Valda

[Aboreal Addict]

Hi,   Valda    I know my John married 3 times but he didn't marry an Anne.   I have all three of his marraige certificates  which state both John and his father were butchers.

I have also found him in the London  birth's and baptisms pages.

[Valda]

Hi

Your John Bond didn't marry an Ann but the other John Bond born Marylebone circa 1819 (from the 1851 census) did. He equally could be the brother of Charles Bond - father a wheelwright not a butcher, born Marylebone circa 1823.

Both the 1819 and the 1823 baptisms merely state that the father John's occupation was trade which could be a trading butcher or a trading wheelwright etc.

Regards

Valda

[JemimaA]

Sorry to jump onto this thread and bump it back up, but Jemima Adams is my direct maternal ancestor, so am quite excited to find this! I would love to know more about her family, it's a shame her mother Mary Ann's surname was indeciperable. Would the marriage cert provide any further info? I won't bother if it's a waste of money as I'm on a budget (new baby).

Many thanks