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« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 June 10 21:40 BST (UK) »
Philadelphia Passenger List



Name: John Diamond Age: 18 Years Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Arrival Date: 5 Jul 1920. 
Birthplace: New York,
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Haverford
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Mr. Pat Diamond
Last Residence: Ireland
Occupation:- Machinist.  Single Person. From Maghera.
Name of Persopn or relative who knows you from County whence came is :-  Mrs Diamond. Fir View. Maghera. Ireland.
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« Reply #10 on: Friday 11 June 10 21:44 BST (UK) »
This could be your John Francis Diamond.

1930 San Francisco, California


John F Diamond 28 Born New York. Rents home $40. Married at 26 years old. Occupation:- City Policeman.

Bridie C Diamond 28 Born Irish Free State.
 
 
 
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« Reply #11 on: Friday 11 June 10 22:34 BST (UK) »
Hi Dettori28,

Thanks again for the information and yes both records belong to my Diamond Family of whom I have recently got in contact with.

I am in contact with John F Diamond and Bridget Christine Cahalane daughter so she will be able to tell me more whenever she gets around to sending me information that she has.

Thanks again for all your help

You are truly wonderful

Kieran

PS Can you see if you can find out anything on Andrew McKernan and Bridget McKernan nee Heron who got married in June 1837 and had a daughter Margaret born in February 1848 from Drumderg Draperstown, Derry Northern Ireland.  From some records I found they were maybe in Newark, Essex, New Jersey.




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« Reply #12 on: Friday 11 June 10 22:40 BST (UK) »
1880 Census Newark, Essex, New Jersey

All children born New Jersey

Andrew Mckernan 56 Born Ireland. Labourer
Bridget Mckernan 44
Ellen Mckernan 20 Button Factory
Elizabeth Mckernan 18 Button Factory
Peter Mckernan 16 Button Factory
Andrew Mckernan 14
Joseph Mckernan 12
 
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: Friday 11 June 10 22:47 BST (UK) »
Hi Dettori28,

Thanks for the information.  Yes I have got this but I am not sure if this is the right family as there is no Margaret mentioned.  I would need to find something that says where in Ireland they were from as Andrew and Bridget were both from Draperstown.

Also they got married in 1837 so going by Andrew is 56 in 1880 he was born in 1824 so he was 13 when he got married?

Thanks for all your help I am really very grateful for it all.

Kieran

PS can you send me links to the last two pieces of the Diamonds information

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« Reply #14 on: Friday 11 June 10 23:00 BST (UK) »
Hello Kieran,

Try the Ireland board to get the marriage info that you need - I think there is more than one Maghera, so not sure which County you need to put it under.
No that does'nt look like the correct Andrew but I did'nt see any other.  :(
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« Reply #15 on: Friday 11 June 10 23:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Dettori28,

Thanks again for all your help.  Yes this dosen't look like Andrew but it could be and his age could be taken down incorrectly or he was trying to make himself younger or maybe he was in another part of America. 
Maghera where the Diamonds were living is in Co Derry.

Here they are in the 1911 census

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Maghera/Glen_Road/611353/

Thanks for all your help

Kieran


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« Reply #16 on: Saturday 12 June 10 12:45 BST (UK) »
Hi Kieran

Saw a post you did on a Belfast Forum in April and you refer to a marriage between John P Hanna and Agnes Diamond.

http://www.belfastforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=29659.0

Does that mean that there is Bridget Agnes and Agnes are one and the same ?

Is this Agnes in New York ?

1930 Census Bronx, New York

John Hanna 31 Born England. Father England. Mother N.Ireland.Married at 27 years. Operator. Ind.  ... Railway. Immigrated 1922
Agnes Hanna 27 Born New York of Irish Parents. Married at 25 years.
Plus 2 children. 1 Male John F Hanna 4 th Oct 1927 - 12 April 1993 SSDI Record
1 Female:- Mary E Hanna 19 Oct 1926 - 2004

Your post says "I am looking for the marriage of John P Hanna from Castlewellan Co Down to Agnes Diamond probably around 1901 or so"


Interestingly there is a New York Passenger List for John Hanna which ties in nicely with the immigration date on the above Census.
Name: John Hanna
Arrival Date: 4 Dec 1922 Birth Year: abt 1900 Birth Location: England
Birth Location Other: Battersea .London
Age: 22 Gender: Male. Single at this date. Occupation:- Farm Labourer.
Nationality: Irish
Port of Departure: Londonderry
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Columbia

Father listed as Hugh Hanna. Drumariad. Castlewellan. Co Down. He was going to Uncle John Hanna. 1836 Arthur Avenue. Bronx. New York.

So the marriage quite possibly is in New York about 1925/26 unless I can find another passenger list that puts John Hanna back in Ireland.

What do you reckon to a New York Marriage  ?

Name: John F. Hanna
 
Last Residence: 10471  Bronx, Bronx, New York.
Born: 4 Oct 1927
Died: 12 Apr 1993



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« Reply #17 on: Saturday 12 June 10 13:20 BST (UK) »
Don't know if you may have seen this and I cannot put all the content because of other living relatives.This was part of an obituary notice in the Post Star of Mary E Hanna/Barlow born 19 Oct 1926 the other daughter of John Hannah & Agnes Diamond.

Name of Deceased: Mary E. Barlow  Age at Death: 77
Death Date: 21 May 2004 Obituary Date: 5 May 2009
Newspaper Title: Post-Star Newspaper Location: Glens Falls, NY, USA
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1926 Birth Place: Warrensburg
Spouse's name: Vincent H. Barlow August
Parents' Names: John and Agnes (Diamond) Hanna
5 Grandchildren

and her husband SSDI Record

Name: Vincent H. Barlow
Born: 26 Mar 1926
Died: 21 May 2004
Last Residence: 12885  Warrensburg, Warren, New York.
 
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