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Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« on: Thursday 17 June 10 21:27 BST (UK) »
According to the IGI index Solomon B1807/ 08 married Phebe B1812 in the church of St Mary The Virgin Winfarthing 12th October in 1831 but I am unable to find this recorded in any online parish record.
The issues I am trying to resolve re Solomon are many namely his correct place and date of birth which are either 1808 in Tivitshall according to the Census records but Tivitshall parish records do not support this. Parish records on Freereg have a Solomon born 1807 in Starston showing parents as being William and Sarah.
I am requesting a lookup of the marriage which may resolve his date and place of birth and parents. Likewise Phebe's
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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 17 June 10 21:33 BST (UK) »
Solomon Potter
Phoebe Banham

11th September, 1831
Gt. Ellingham

as well as the one you mention.



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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 17 June 10 22:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks for the prompt reply but I have just checked the parish records for Gt Ellingham for 1829 througfh to 1832 and there is no record of this.
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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #3 on: Friday 18 June 10 15:04 BST (UK) »
hi nanu

check the banns of Great Ellingham (image 9 of 30) you'll find Soloman and Phebe there

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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #4 on: Friday 18 June 10 17:24 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Yokel,

The banns were posted b/w 11th & 25th Sept 1831 which would fit with the date of marriage on 12 Oct. Is it normal to post Banns at a church miles from where both apparently lived and actually got married?

Unfortunately the details on the Banns don't help with the information I am looking for. I think only the actual registration of the marraige in Winfarthing may do that.

Just trying to think of ways I can confirm Solomons date and place of birth and to identify his parents. Some parish registers list the parents of the bride and groom. If it is William and Sarah then it would suggest that he was born in Starston, if not then Tivitshall looks more likely.

If no parents are listed then all I can think of is trying to access a nominal list of Starston and or Tivitshall around 1807 / 08 if such a thing exists.

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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 19 June 10 14:00 BST (UK) »
Hi Mel

Banns are usually read in the in the Parishes where each party live, which would suggest that Phoebe was living in Gt Ellingham at the time.

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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #6 on: Friday 30 June 17 13:04 BST (UK) »
Solomon's mother is ANN - she's living in Winfarthing with Solomon, Phoebe and family as his widowed mother on the 1871 census  :)
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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 19:59 BST (UK) »
Solomon's mother is ANN - she's living in Winfarthing with Solomon, Phoebe and family as his widowed mother on the 1871 census  :)
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Thanks Latina, I think?

That information I missed and it certainly causes some questions. The reason why I asked is to find Solomon's parents and place of birth. All census records show Solomon was born in Tivetshall but parish records don't record his birth or baptism. The only Solomon Potter I can find was born in 1807 /8 which is the right date but in Starston which is nearby and his parents are shown as William and Sarah. You can see how your information is confusing me. Will have to think again where I go from hear.
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Re: Solomon Potter & Phebe Banham
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 18 July 17 20:52 BST (UK) »
Currently exploring the possibility that Solomon's parents were Nathan Potter from Winfarthing and Ann Harbour (or Harbur) from Gissing. Like you, I am unable to find a Tivetshall baptism, but wonder if it might have been a non conformist baptism? Just sharing these thoughts to confuse matters further ...  ;D Let me know if you make any solid progress :)
Best wishes and good luck!
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