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Re: Prison sentence!
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 08:58 BST (UK) »
The George on the ship is 32 and single

What about the georges who die, which are discounted

1903/3037 Fleet  George  84Y
1938/28498 Fleet  George  90Y
1904/6902 Fleet  George Joseph  56Y
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Re: Prison sentence!
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 18:29 BST (UK) »

Not sure if he married in 1879 as he should of been in prison.  .


Hi

The George FLEET buried at Ashburton, is the one who married in 1881.

George FLEET - Leonora LEMONNIER - 1881

Ashburton Cemetery

Plot 1  -  38  (RC)

George FLEET - 90 - d. 1938

Leonara [sic] - 91 - d. 1953



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« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 18:33 BST (UK) »

NZ Death Index shows wife as   >>

1953 - FLEET - Leonora Hester - 91 years

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Re: Prison sentence!
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 18:39 BST (UK) »
Can see just one birth for this couple.   ???

1941 / 70843

FLEET - Herbert Stanley

Parents :  Lenora [sic] Hester and George


[Seems birth was a late registration (1941) ]



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Re: Prison sentence!
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 18:54 BST (UK) »

Now this is interesting.   :D

NZ Death

1975

FLEET - Herbert Stanley - c.k.a.  Rafess Joseph - d.o.b. 12 May 1909


and ...

Ashburton Cemetery

Rafess Joseph FLEET - d. 1975 - 65 years

Leila Ward FLEET - d. 1999 - 85 years

both in Plot 1 - 860   (Anglican)

[Plus child Vivian Rafess FLEET - 5 months - d. 1939 - Plot 1 - 4 ]

 
               

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« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 18:56 BST (UK) »

Suzy  ... did George FLEET have siblings  ... if so, do you know their names ?

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Re: Prison sentence!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 19:40 BST (UK) »
This is off-topic, but, I feel I must stick-up for the British judicial system.!!!!!! "Back in England" in 1875 a case of horse-stealing would not automatically result in a hanging!-  it would depend on the previous as they say!

Sally
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 21:15 BST (UK) »
Yes sad
Read NZ court cases,,,we wouldn't have any one left, we were at times a very unlawful lot or perhaps people just were sent to court alot more than what they were today
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Re: Prison sentence!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 23 June 10 22:00 BST (UK) »
Good Morning.

George Fleet was born Nov 1853, Hobart, Australia.  That is why I thought the shipping record looked promising, but his age is way off at 32, our George would of been about 8 years old.

I know the family must of came to New Zealand between  1855 and 1860, I have checked many records coming into Lyttelton, Wellington, and a few into Auckland. (no Luck)

His mother had a unusual name of Sibby or Sabina, father was William.  (ex Convicts from Hobart)

I found George's occupation as Shoe Smith 1897 New Brighton Railway then he moved to Tinwald, Ashburton.

The Ashburton Cemetery records puts his death 5 years older than he should be!    Now I am wondering if this George of 1853 died and William and Sibby had another son named George a few years later?

NZ BMD does not give parents names (William and Sibby) with the births for this Fleet family.  I have found Joseph Bernard, Henry William, Harriet Barbra, Marie Anne, and possible a Louisa  all born in Halswell, near Christchurch, New Zealand.

I have been able to track Joseph Bernard's side easy, It is just those early records that do not reveal much for William and Sibby.

I wonder if George completed his full sentence?  Two possible marriages Mary Ann Travener 1879 and of course Lenora Lemonnier 1881 who would fit in nicely after his release from prison.

I think we are right with the burials in Ashburton, it is the age of George which is conflicting.

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Suzy W
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