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Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« on: Thursday 24 June 10 01:29 BST (UK) »
Hi
Looking for information on Swords, Kinsella and Burke, all of Mounthoward, Monamolin, Gorey.

Two Swords brothers married two Kinsella sisters.
Michael Swords married Mary Kinsella in 1832.
Their daughter (Peggy) Margaret married Patrick Burke in 1879.
Patrick Swords married Catherine Kinsella in 1845.

Mogue
All in County Wexford
Breslin/Breslawn: Monaseed
Burke: Monamolin.
Byrne: Ballycanew.
Cullimore: Killurin.
Dempsey: North Co.Wexford
Doyle: Horetown.
Doyle: Killurin.
Doyle: Newbawn.
Fardy: Killurin.
Kinsella: Ballycanew.
Kinsella: Killenagh.
Kinsella: Monamolin.
Larkin: Killurin.
Lumsden: All Wexford
Moran: Adamstown.
Moran: Killurin.
Mythen: Oulart.
Ryan: Killurin.
Swords: Monamolin.
Tee/Tighe: Coolafancy, Co. Wicklow.
Tighe/Tee Monaseed.
Wafer: Ballygarrett/Monamolin

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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 24 June 10 21:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Mogue

I have a birth certificate from 1877 for Annastatia Swords whose father was James Swords of Mount Howard.  Mother was Mary Swords (nee Lacey).

There is a possible connection with my own tree.  My grandfather, Thomas Bell, married Annastasia Swords in Ballyoughter in April 1913.  On Annastasia's death certificate in 1935, her age was given as 48 and her father was recorded as James Swords  Her mother's maiden name was given as Kinsella.  Consequently I'm not sure if the birth certificate I have is the right one.  There is no other possible birth in County Wexford in 1887 that fits.  Either my grandfather didn't know the correct details when he registered the death or there is some other explanation.

Either way you are more than welcome to a copy of the certificate if you PM me with your email address.

Andrew


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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #2 on: Friday 25 June 10 01:08 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your reply.

It does seem a bit confusing. James Swords and Mary Lacey had a daughter Annastasia baptised 13.11.1878.

James Swords mother would have been Kinsella. When asked who was the Father, who was the Mother, maybe he took it to be the Fathers Mother?

I do not have a cert for the wedding of James Swords and Mary Lacey but they were married in Monamolin RC Church on 9th of January 1869 by my records.

James, I assume, must be the son of either Michael Swords & Mary Kinsella or Patrick Swords & Catherine Kinsella.

Mogue
All in County Wexford
Breslin/Breslawn: Monaseed
Burke: Monamolin.
Byrne: Ballycanew.
Cullimore: Killurin.
Dempsey: North Co.Wexford
Doyle: Horetown.
Doyle: Killurin.
Doyle: Newbawn.
Fardy: Killurin.
Kinsella: Ballycanew.
Kinsella: Killenagh.
Kinsella: Monamolin.
Larkin: Killurin.
Lumsden: All Wexford
Moran: Adamstown.
Moran: Killurin.
Mythen: Oulart.
Ryan: Killurin.
Swords: Monamolin.
Tee/Tighe: Coolafancy, Co. Wicklow.
Tighe/Tee Monaseed.
Wafer: Ballygarrett/Monamolin

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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #3 on: Friday 25 June 10 13:58 BST (UK) »
Hi Mogue

It's frustrating that I can't quite make the connection as there's no other Annastasia Swords that fits the bill.  I don't know who James Swords' parents were as I haven't researched that line beyond Annastasia.

If you don't have a copy of her birth certitifcate you're more than welcome to have a copy of it.

Andrew


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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 26 June 10 00:15 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

A mistake in my last post. Annastasia was baptised in Monamolin RC on 13th Nov. 1877.
All in County Wexford
Breslin/Breslawn: Monaseed
Burke: Monamolin.
Byrne: Ballycanew.
Cullimore: Killurin.
Dempsey: North Co.Wexford
Doyle: Horetown.
Doyle: Killurin.
Doyle: Newbawn.
Fardy: Killurin.
Kinsella: Ballycanew.
Kinsella: Killenagh.
Kinsella: Monamolin.
Larkin: Killurin.
Lumsden: All Wexford
Moran: Adamstown.
Moran: Killurin.
Mythen: Oulart.
Ryan: Killurin.
Swords: Monamolin.
Tee/Tighe: Coolafancy, Co. Wicklow.
Tighe/Tee Monaseed.
Wafer: Ballygarrett/Monamolin

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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 26 June 10 01:28 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

Searching through my Swords file I see that a Swords family member mentions that Anastasia Swords born 13.11.1877 daughter of James Swords and Mary Lacey married Thomas Bell on 2nd of April 1913 in Ballyoughter RC.

This would seem to confirm the details. I am going on holiday in a couple of weeks, so it will probably be September before I send away for some Civil Certs from Roscommon.

I will send for a cert for the marriage of James Swords and Mary Lacey on the 9th of January 1869. I hope this marriage was registered as the marriage of Patrick Burke and Margaret Swords in Monamolin RC in1867 was not registered with Civil Registration.

Bye for now

Mogue
All in County Wexford
Breslin/Breslawn: Monaseed
Burke: Monamolin.
Byrne: Ballycanew.
Cullimore: Killurin.
Dempsey: North Co.Wexford
Doyle: Horetown.
Doyle: Killurin.
Doyle: Newbawn.
Fardy: Killurin.
Kinsella: Ballycanew.
Kinsella: Killenagh.
Kinsella: Monamolin.
Larkin: Killurin.
Lumsden: All Wexford
Moran: Adamstown.
Moran: Killurin.
Mythen: Oulart.
Ryan: Killurin.
Swords: Monamolin.
Tee/Tighe: Coolafancy, Co. Wicklow.
Tighe/Tee Monaseed.
Wafer: Ballygarrett/Monamolin

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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 26 June 10 10:40 BST (UK) »
Mogue

That would seem to tie it up.  Any information you have on the Swords family, especially Annastasia, would be most welcome.  It's interesting that she appears to have been 10 years older than the age mentioned on her death certificate in 1935 (48).  It might explain however why she and my grandfather only had the two children.  My Dad's half brother, Joshua Bell (born in Glasgow 1916) and half sister Maureaine (born 1919).

I have my grandfather's marriage certificate from 1913 if you would like a copy for your files.

Andrew

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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 June 10 02:01 BST (UK) »
Hi Andrew,

I would love a copy of any Cert. you have.

Tomorrow, Sunday 27th June, the “Pattern”, blessing of the graves, takes place in Ballyoughter Cemetery at 2pm.

I believe there are some Swords graves there. I hope to be there.

I will try to find more information on Anastasia but I think that is all I have for now.

Mogue
All in County Wexford
Breslin/Breslawn: Monaseed
Burke: Monamolin.
Byrne: Ballycanew.
Cullimore: Killurin.
Dempsey: North Co.Wexford
Doyle: Horetown.
Doyle: Killurin.
Doyle: Newbawn.
Fardy: Killurin.
Kinsella: Ballycanew.
Kinsella: Killenagh.
Kinsella: Monamolin.
Larkin: Killurin.
Lumsden: All Wexford
Moran: Adamstown.
Moran: Killurin.
Mythen: Oulart.
Ryan: Killurin.
Swords: Monamolin.
Tee/Tighe: Coolafancy, Co. Wicklow.
Tighe/Tee Monaseed.
Wafer: Ballygarrett/Monamolin

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Re: Swords, Kinsella and Burke of Mounthoward
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 June 10 12:27 BST (UK) »
Mogue

Please send me a personal message (PM) with your email address and I'll send you copies of the Swords certificates I mentioned above.

Regards

Andrew