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Obertelli/Obertelle
« on: Saturday 03 July 10 23:25 BST (UK) »
I'm trying to trace the origins of the Obertelli family.
My branch of the family moved to Carlisle about 1880, having first lived in Barrow after arrving from Italy. I know there are still some Obertellis living in the Morecambe and Bolton areas and wondered if they have any information on their Cumbrian cousins?
The head of the Carlisle Obertellis, Antonio disappeared between 1904-1911, probably returning to Italy. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to where to look for any immigration records around 1880 and emigration/passenger list records for both periods?

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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 July 10 23:34 BST (UK) »
Hi

www.bt.com

Scroll down Home Page until you see The Phone Book

Click on Residential Name

Type in Obertelli and use Lancashire as the location

There are 3 listed phone numbers - 2 in Bolton and one in Morecambe so you could ring them for info

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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 July 10 23:36 BST (UK) »
there is a maris obertelli going to st albans vermont in 1912

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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 July 10 23:40 BST (UK) »
http://www.ancestorsonboard.com/HomePageController.action  has 4 Obertelle entries on their free index
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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 July 10 23:41 BST (UK) »
also 2 antonio obertellis going to new york in 1903 and 1905 they have pics too


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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 01:13 BST (UK) »
Thank you Kerry and Carole for your help.
Kerry, can you tell me where you found the Obertellis going to New York?
Thanks again,
Mark

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 07:14 BST (UK) »
hi it was on ancestry

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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 12:00 BST (UK) »
The Antonio on the 1905 arrival was 50 and married. He was from Fano in north Italy, as were many others on the page.

The 1903 arrival was detained for about 1 day as a Likely Public Charge, but then admitted after enquiries.

There's also a 1907 sailing from Genoa to New York. It has an Antonio as a married day labourer from Morfasso. He was 32 and going to Boston to his brother-in-law Antonio Guarnier, and had never visited the US before. He's a possibility if, as you suspect, he returned to Italy.
Looking at ALSTON in south Ribble area, ALSTEAD and DONBAVAND/DUNBABIN etc. everywhere, HOWCROFT and MARSH in Bolton and Westhoughton, PICKERING in the Whitehaven area.

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Re: Obertelli/Obertelle
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 July 10 23:50 BST (UK) »
Thanks for your help.