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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 21 January 14 06:40 GMT (UK) »
New to this but may be of interest? I am Hervey Lawrence's grandson John. I have Dr Samuel Lawrence's silver chest (here in Queensland) that accompanied him up the Nile with Gen. Kitchener. Please let me know if you would like any more information about our line of the family.

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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #46 on: Monday 14 September 15 10:27 BST (UK) »
I think you may be looking for Alexander Lawrence in the wrong county, as he named one of his farms Sleive Gallion, which also  lists a family of Lawrences see below.

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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #47 on: Thursday 27 September 18 21:10 BST (UK) »
Hello everyone,

I am new to RootsChat and researching my Irish ancestors. I realize the last post was from 3+ years ago now, but the information in this thread is of interest to me, as I am trying to find details of my second great grandfather’s family. I am looking for any information and would love to chat with any family members of David Lawrence, b. about 1865, location unknown but likely around Coleraine.

I know nothing about David’s origins, apart from his father’s name – which was also David Lawrence. David married Susanna Gray in Feb 1887 in Ballylagan/Coleraine. Susanna Gray was the daughter of James Gray (about 1832-1912) and Rachel Mitchell (about 1832-1919). I have no further information on her parents.

David and Susanna’s children were:
-   James Gray (b. 5 Mar 1889 in Ballylagan, d. 13 Mar 1976 in Eriksdale, Manitoba Canada) James was my great grandfather and as far as I know, the only Lawrence from this family to immigrate to Canada, which he did between 1911-1913.
-   David (b. 25 Mar 1893 in Ballylagan)
-   William (b. 29 Apr 1895 in Ballylagan)
-   Thomas (b. 15 Apr 1900 in Ballylagan)
-   Samuel (b. 24 Aug 1902 in Ballylagan)
-   Rachel (b. 8 Apr 1905 in Ballylagan)
-   George (b. 23 May 1907 in Ballylagan)
-   John Mitchell (b. 23 Dec 1910 in Ballylagan)

The 1911 Census also indicates there was another unknown child born, but died prior to 1911. I have no other information on these children – where they lived, who they married, when they died, etc. All of this information was gathered from James and Susanna’s marriage record, the children’s birth records, the 1901 and 1911 Ireland Census forms.

I was wondering if there is any connection to the previously mentioned Alexander Lawrence (b. 23 Feb 1840) from Coleraine (mentioned by bnl), the William Lawrence from Ballylagan (mentioned by biffdog) or the multiple Lawrence families in the 1832 Census (mentioned by cyclamen). Any clues, connections or other possible sources would be greatly helpful.

Thanks,
Holly Lawrence

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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #48 on: Friday 28 September 18 00:33 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat.
There are some details on the marriage cert which may be useful to anyone who can help you
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1887/10790/5935033.pdf
David and both fathers are Labourers
They married by license
If I'm reading correctly the marriage was Presbyterian
Townland names as well, I need to check them out to be able to read them.
One of the witnesses is William Lawrence.


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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #49 on: Friday 28 September 18 00:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Sinann,

Looks like the marriage date is 24 Feb 1887? and the family was most likely Reformed Presbyterian. I cant quite read David's residence... Looks as if it says (?) Parish of Macosquin? Susanna's residence looks like it says Ballylagan, Parish of Macosquin? As for the witnesses, I believe that Eliza Jane Gray is Susanna's older sister. I'm wondering if William Lawrence is a brother to David? Looks like I have a lot of info to confirm...

Thanks for your help  ;D

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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #50 on: Friday 28 September 18 01:12 BST (UK) »
Ballintaggart for Susanna
Yes Macosquin for the parish, this is the Civil Parish
This is a handy site
http://www.thecore.com/seanruad/

As is this one
https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php?gregdistid=50
Think  David's is Carndougan

Macosquin is the last Civil Parish on the list, click on it and all the townlands will show.

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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #51 on: Friday 28 September 18 08:03 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat  :) I think I can fill in some details for you and clarify some things from this thread.

The Lawrence family of Coleraine are not at all likely to be connected- if they are it would be far earlier than available records. Biffdog (who posted earlier in the thread- see page 2) is related.

The family belonged to Ballylaggan Reformed Presbyterian Church. A few years ago when I transcribed the graveyard there were only 2 (fairly recent) Lawrence headstones.

Starting with the 1887 marriage- David Lawrence was living in Carndugan and the witness William Lorence may have been his brother. The other witness was Susanna's sister Eliza Janie Gray (born 1856). Susanna's parents were James Gray (born c1832) and Rachel Mitchell. There was also a brother James Gray (born c1871).

Susanna (Gray) Lawrence born 25 Aug.1865 & died 20 Oct.1927. David's parents were David Lawrence (son of Samuel) & Mary McMillan (daughter of William).

Children of David Lawrence & Susanna Gray-
1. James Gray Lawrence (1889)
2. Mary McMillan Lawrence (5 Mar.1891)- she died 18 July 1894 Ballylaggan LINK
3. David Lawrence (1893), fought WWI, m.1916 Esther Crawford- 3 sons
4. William "Willie" Lawrence (1895), fought WWI m.1920 Mary Connolly- daughter
5. Thomas Martin Lawrence (1900-1975) m.1923 Sarah Margaret McMaster- 3 sons, 3 daughters
6. Samuel Lawrence (1902-21 Aug.1923)
7. Rachel Mitchell Lawrence (1905) m.1930 John Doey- 1 son
8. George Lawrence (1907) m.1930 Margaret Orr- 2 sons
9. John Mitchell Lawrence (1910)
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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #52 on: Friday 28 September 18 08:46 BST (UK) »
James Gray Lawrence married (19 Dec.1907) Lizzie Allen
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1907/10105/5676463.pdf
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Somerset/Curragh/587864
They had at least 4 children before leaving Ireland-
1. David Lawrence (26 Jan.1908 Ballylaggan) LINK
2. Esther Lawrence (14 Apr.1911 Curragh) LINK

Children of David Lawrence & Esther Crawford-
William Lawrence (1917-8 Feb.1917 Camus, age 10 days) LINK
Samuel James Lawrence (1918-26 May 1919 Gills, age 7 months) LINK

Note: corrections made later
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Re: Lawrence - Coleraine, Londonderry
« Reply #53 on: Friday 28 September 18 08:48 BST (UK) »
Wonder is there a connection  i see his eldest daughter is Mary McMillan

A David Lawrence married Mary McMillan 1862 in Coleraine
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGXN-QQ3