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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #9 on: Monday 27 June 11 09:56 BST (UK) »
The Net is a wonderful tool so here is what I found:

Snippet from the book, Linen Houses of the Bann Valley:  mentions William and John Robinson of Ballydown; lived at Rockview and stated that John joined with John Cleaver of Belfast.

However, obit from The Times dated March 10, 1906 has Edward Robinson as being the partner.  Obit said that
Edward was from Ballymena and the son of Alexander Robinson, a woolen trader.  Edward was married to a Miss Blair and at his death left three sons.

In regards to the family of Ballydown near Banbridge, I was able to find the following:
1858--John Robinson declared bankruptcy.

1860--June 26, at Banbridge Church, the marriage of John M'Quoide, Esq. of Dromore to Margaret, the dau of John Robinson, Esq. of Ballydown.

I was unable to find any additional information on William Robinson of Ballydown

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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #10 on: Monday 27 June 11 10:03 BST (UK) »
From PRONI website- "Probate of the Will (and two Codicils) of Edward Robinson late of Lismara Whiteabbey County Antrim and Donegall-place Belfast Merchant J.P. who died 6 March 1906 at Lismara Whiteabbey granted at Belfast to Marion H. Robinson the Widow and Edward A. Robinson and Harold C. Robinson Merchants" Will mentions wife, sons Edward and Harold, brother Hugh, sister Sarah, aunt Mary Ann Robinson....7 pages long
Away sorting out DNA matches... I may be gone for some time many years!

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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 06:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Aghadowey.  I do not own or have access to the book Linen Houses of the Bann Valley(too expensive to buy and it is doubtful whether a library in Japan will have it) so I am not sure how the author made the connection of John Robinson to Edward Robinson.  It is of course possible that the families were related, but I doubt whether John and Edward were  the same person.

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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 23:41 BST (UK) »
From Proni Wills:

Alexander Robinson d. 1863, late of Ballymena; woolen draper;
his will was proved by Margaretta Robinson, widow,
Edmund Robinson of Randalstown and Alexander Patterson, merchant.

Will of Edmund Robinson, late of Randalstown, merchant;
his will proved by the Rev. James Brown Huston.

Will of Alexander Patterson, late of Carnmoney, J.P.;
will proved by Hugh Robinson of Holywood, Co. Down, merchant,
and William Roney Patterson of Magherfelt.  William Roney Patterson
died in 1908.

Hugh Robinson of Holywood, Down, d. 1893; will proved by
William M'Collum Robinson, Club Secretary and Mary Robinson, widow. Mary died in 1922 and her will
was probated by William M'Collum Robinson, accountant, and Sara Robinson, spinster.







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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 23:48 BST (UK) »
More from Proni Wills:

Esther Robinson, spinster, died 1911 and probate granted to
William McCollum Robinson.

Margaretta Robinson, of Lennoxvale, Belfast, spinster, died 1912,
probate granted to  Hugh Moore Robinson, Director.

Hugh Moore Robinson of Lennoxvale died 1932; probate granted
to Sara Robinson and Edward Arthur Robinson, Director.

Mary Shannon Robinson, spinster, died 1933 and probate granted to William McCollum Robinson.

Sara Robinson, spinster, died 1937 and probate granted to Edward Arthur Robinson, Gent.

William McCollum Robinson died 1938 and probate granted to Violet Montgomery Robinson, spinster and
Alexander Herbert Finlay, Co. Director.




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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 28 June 11 23:58 BST (UK) »
1911 Census has the following:

Living at 21 Ballynahatty, Co. Down
Edward Arthur Robinson, aged 32, linen merchant
Mabel, wife, aged 34
Granddine M. A., aged 8
Meg M. G., aged 3

Living separately (forgot to jot down address, Belfast?)
Marion Harvey Robinson, aged 50, widow, b. St. Louis, USA
Harold Claude Robinson, aged 28, linen manufacturing manager
Stanley Gerald Robinson, aged 22, linen manufacturing manager

Harold Claude Robinson (1882-1944) is probably the same person who was the M.P. for Larne and
in 1917 was a temporary Major and awarded the Croix de Guerre.

I was only able to find two Stanley G. Robinsons:  one died in1919 and the other was a son-in-law to
Sir Victor Horsley.  He needs more research.

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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #15 on: Friday 22 June 12 09:26 BST (UK) »
Hugh Robinson of Belfast married Mary Shannon, dau of Dr. Shannon of Magherafelt

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Re: Robinson & Cleaver families
« Reply #16 on: Friday 22 June 12 10:07 BST (UK) »
http://www.lib.lsu.edu/special/findaid/m4356.html

See the above website for additional information on this family--However, the nuts and bolts are this:
1.  John McKowen (1812-1871) merchant of Jackson, East Feliciana Parish, Louisiana; emigrated from Castle Dawson round 1830; m. 1 Mary Ann Langford of Woodville, Mississippi and had,

2.  Dr. John Clay MacKowen (1842-1901), unmarried but had a dau,

3.  Giulia

2.  Sarah Elizabeth McKowen m. William H. Pipes

2.  Alexander McKowen died in Civil War

John McKowen m. 2 in 1846 to Jane Shannon, dau of Dr. Shannon of Magherafelt (anyone have a first name for this man) and had further issue,

2.  William Robert McKowen  m. Sally Pipes of Jackson, Louisiana

2.  Thomas Chalmers McKowen (1849-1926) m. Margaret Ann Germany (1852-1942)

3.  Mary Virginia McKowen (1873-1952) m. Thomas Lilley Mills

3.  Margaret Jane McKowen m. Albert Carter Mills

John McKowen m. 3 Christina, who survived him

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« Reply #17 on: Friday 22 June 12 10:36 BST (UK) »
1849--Death of Margaret, wife of Dr Shannon of Magherafelt.

1866--Death of Dr. Shannon at Magherafelt, aged 84.

1890--Death of James Shannon, L.A.H.D., 3rd son of Dr. Shannon of Magherafelt.