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Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« on: Friday 16 July 10 03:38 BST (UK) »

I have been having a look round the web for information on the great Irish trainer and amateur jockey Harry Beasley (the Elder, b. ca. 1852).  There is a fair bit available online,  but I am wondering whether anybody can help with one particular point that has so far eluded me:  when and where did he die?  (I have fallen at the same fence with his second wife/widow May*,  formerly wife of the Harry Peard who ran Phoenix Park race course).

Beasley certainly lived to a good age,  because several sources record that he last rode competitively aged 83,  in 1935.  A paragraph in The Times (11 June 1935) had it thus:

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Mr Harry Beasley, the father of Harry and Pat Beasley, well known as riders in this country, yesterday won the Corinthian Plate at the Baldoyle Meeting.  Mr. Beasley is more than 80 years of age and was a famous rider 50 years ago.  He won the Grand National on Come Away in 1891.

The article might have added that Harry had also been runner-up in the National in 1884,  1885 and 1886;  and in the same decade he and two of his brothers competed against each other in that race on no less than four occasions -- his brother Tommy coming home first three times.  The Beasley brothers ran Eyrefield House stud and training stables on the Curragh.  Harry (as Henry) can easily be spotted thereabouts in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.

I had hoped that the LDS RecordSearch version of the GRO indexes would find me the death details;  but no luck,  whether under the name Harry or his full forenames Henry Herbert (as disclosed in The Times report of a libel action he brought in the mid-1920s about false race-fixing insinuations).  Same problem with finding his wife/widow May,  whose middle name was -- I think -- Margaret.

The annual series of printed probate calendars would likely provide the answer,  but there seems to be no set outside Ireland these days,  let alone online (barring PRONI's partial and ongoing project for the Ulster registries).  I would love to hear if anyone happens to know better -- that would be a great resource for long-range Irish research.  I have identified nothing plausible-looking between 1930 and 1960 via the Anc**try.com version of the London GRO indexes,  nor on ScotlandsPeople,  though I suppose I could quite easily have missed something.

I believe that I have seen it said that the LDS RecordSearch index does incorporate the overseas deaths of Irish residents.  But in case the relevant events were still notified to British embassies I have tried the consular deaths via FindMyPast.  Nothing.  Ditto with passenger lists and online family trees.  Maybe fresh eyes would do better.

I had also hoped to find an obituary or at least a death notice in one of the online London newspaper archives.  If anyone has access to the Dublin papers,  I would guess that the odds of finding an obit ought to be even better.

Would be most grateful for help with this.


Rol





* CORRECTION (17.07.10, 16:02 hrs. BST):    May was in fact his daughter-in-law,  wife of his son the jockey Harry Beasley the Younger -- whose birth was registered in the name Henry Herbert Edward Beasley,  Naas RD,  Q1 1899,  per LDS RecordSearch.  (But I still can't trace any record of her death,  despite her being born as early as 1887 and being described as "the late Mrs M. M. Beasley" when a daughter's engagement was announced in 1950.)


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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 August 10 20:27 BST (UK) »

Although no reader of the above post has been able to check the Dublin PPR calendars in the way I had been hoping,  thanks to the new London PPR database on Anc**try.com I am now in the fortunate position of being able to answer my own question -- so I am posting the information here to help any future searcher who may happen to alight on the page.

This is the entry in the London calendar for the year 1940:
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BEASLEY Henry Herbert of Eyrefield House Curragh county Kildare died 19 October 1939 Probate London 10 May to Kathleen Mary Beasley widow.
Effects £588 11s. 10d. in England

I had expected this to be explicitly a re-seal of a Dublin grant,  but except for the closing words "in England" it seems to be worded just like a primary grant.  Still,  given those closing words and the Irish residence stated,  it would seem very odd if there was not also a Dublin grant to help his executrix deal with the assets at Eyrefield.

It continues to be a puzzle that neither FamilySearch's Record Search nor the London GRO indexes seem to show any registration of his death.  If anyone can crack that problem,  I remain most interested to hear.  I suppose it is possible that the Dublin PPR calendar could include the place of death,  as the London one does in earlier years.

At least the fate of his daughter-in-law May is now clear.  Per her GRO death cert (registered as Mary Margaret),  she died at Reydon Lodge,  Bury Road,  Newmarket,  on 15 February 1933.  Harry jnr. was the informant.  He later re-married:  his second wife was Patricia Hobson,  sister of the film actress Valerie Hobson (herself married to John Profumo,  the Tory war minister brought low by scandal in 1963) --  this according to a piece in the Racing Post's Anorak column of 8 September 2006,  cited here.

I do hope that Anc**try are planning to make the Scots and Irish PPR calendars available online,  just like the ones for England and Wales.


Rol   


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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 December 17 15:50 GMT (UK) »
Just filling in as lots of info now on line
Ref for searching
Kildare Observer
http://archive.irishnewsarchive.com/Olive/APA/KCL.Edu/#panel=home

Wills and Testaments
http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/wills-testamentary-records/

9th Jan 1894 Ballybrack
Marriage of Henry to Kathleen Field
Giving his parents as Joseph LAPHAM Beasley and Harriet
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633696#page/116/mode/1up

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1894/10553/5844398.pdf

Kathleen died 1955 no apparent Will or Probate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1955/04432/4157999.pdf
http://www.youwho.ie/kilmacud-house.html

Dec 1834 marriage of Joseph Lapham Beasley and Harriet Anne Pope in Carlow
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/display-pdf.jsp?pdfName=c-317-1-3-108

possible parents John Pentland Beasley died 1837  right hand page
Hannah Beasley otherwise Lapham died 1838  left hand page
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014886/005014886_00333.pdf

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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #3 on: Friday 23 December 22 11:35 GMT (UK) »
Henry Hebert Beasley was the son of James Lapham Beasley and Harriet Ann Pope daughter of Major Edward Harmon Pope and Lettia Hughes of Popefield Athy. It was Henrys Uncle Thomas Harman Pope who first taught the Beasley brothers to ride.

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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #4 on: Friday 23 December 22 14:03 GMT (UK) »

Linking the 1939 death at Eyrefield House, Curragh. Kathleen Beasley, his widow was the informant.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1939/04737/4267564.pdf

Eyrefield House
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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #5 on: Friday 23 December 22 14:43 GMT (UK) »
That is correct Kathleen Mary Beasley nee Field daughter of Patrick Field, Harry and Kathleen had a son Patrick Thomas Beasley born 09 Aug 1906 he was a horse trainer.
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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #6 on: Friday 23 December 22 15:20 GMT (UK) »

Two elder siblings to the Beasley/Field marriage-

Henry Herbert Edward Beasley born 27 February 1899 at Eyrefield House, Athgarvan.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1899/02052/1785519.pdf

Mary Josephine Laura Beasley born 19 July 1902 at St Columba, Ballybrack.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1902/01902/1738340.pdf

....Harry and Kathleen had a son Patrick Thomas Beasley born 09 Aug 1906 he was a horse trainer.

…and here's the birth record for Patrick Thomas Beasley born at Shangaragh Park, Shankill, Co Dublin. Note it was registered on 1 April 1907 and by Statutory Declaration.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1907/01700/1674374.pdf


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Re: Harry Beasley, Jockey and Trainer
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 December 22 16:56 GMT (UK) »

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Harry (as Henry) can easily be spotted thereabouts in the 1901 and 1911 censuses.

1901 census - Beasley
House 37 in Blackrath and Athgarvan (Newbridge Rural, Kildare)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kildare/Newbridge_Rural/Blackrath_and_Athgarvan/1442759/

…and 1911 census
House 31 in Blackrath and Athgarvan (Newbridge Rural, Kildare)
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kildare/Newbridge_Rural/Blackrath_and_Athgarvan/568224/

Catherine Mary Josephine Beasley born 13 March 1895 at Eyrefield.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1895/02218/1837038.pdf

William Wemys Joseph Beasley born 9 April 1896 at St Columba, Ballybrack.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1896/02174/1823385.pdf

Elsie Barbara Beasley born 23 June 1897 at Eyrefield House.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1897/02119/1805785.pdf


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