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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #27 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:09 BST (UK) »
so there is ann
if you want me to search for any of her children then i will
mick
you now know what happened to 3 of thomas/mary allens children
richard
jeremiah
ann
that just leaves eliza born 1842 holdgate
mary born 1824 holdgate

you have a partial record of the other son george
will see if i can follow him through later but will have a look for eliza first
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #28 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:13 BST (UK) »

Hiya

Do you think this might be Eliza and her husband:

RG9/1845/21/2
jeremiah allen age 24. b. holdgate. occ. shepherd(unm)
he is residing in the household of richard/eliza esp richards occ. farmer
address;larden grainge, shipton,church streeton,shropshire


- Does that entry show their surname?  Or is it Richard Richards???

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #29 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:19 BST (UK) »
you already have eliza in 1851(see reply 2)
she is not with her parents in 1861(see reply 1)
she is not on the census anywhere in 1861
here is a probable explanation(you would need cert to be sure)
death index
name; eliza allen
y.o.r. 1853
qtr;oct/nov/dec
dist; ludlow
vol; 6a
page; 333
this is the right dist for where the family lived

with regard to your last posting the surname is esp
but this is not your eliza this one was born 1814 your eliza was born c1842
i think the death entry above is very probably her
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #30 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:21 BST (UK) »
that just leaves mary allen born 1824
you already have her in 1841,1851 with parents
she also is not with parents in 1861
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #31 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:23 BST (UK) »

Oh ok thanks Wozzle....
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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #32 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:28 BST (UK) »

that's an enormous help on the Allen family - is there a chance you could
help with the generation before this :

Catherine Allen b.1807 Stoke St Milborough
married Thomas Tantram b. 1795 burford
with one known daughter Caroline b.1833

Hoping to find more of their children as well if poss.

:)

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #33 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:31 BST (UK) »
o.k will have a go
with ref to mary allen the only thing i can find is a marr in ludlow between a thomas smout/mary anne allen in 1851(after the 1851 census)
then there is a death in 1852 in ludlow of a mary anne smout
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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #34 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:38 BST (UK) »
1841
HO107/917/3/folio missing/10
thomas tantram age 40. occ. farmer
catherine tantram age 25
caroline tantram age 8
living at;church bridge,burford,shropshire
reg.dist;tenbury
catherines born c.1816 according to this
will see what age is given on the 1851 census
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #35 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:40 BST (UK) »
 :o


OHHH SMOUT!!!!


I believe that is a link!
there's a big tie up of Allen-Tantram families here in NZ and they all
hailed from Shropshire - i've seen Smout and Beddoes also connected...
So that's definitely a strong lead for Mary

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