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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #36 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:43 BST (UK) »
this is a bit better
1851
HO107/2040/23/14
thomas tantram age 56. b. burford. occ. farmer of 39 acres. head
catherine age 42. b. stoke st. milborough. wife
caroline age 18. b. burford. daughter
charles webb age 15. b. corley. occ. farm servant
living at;tilsop cottage,tilsop,shropshire
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #37 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:45 BST (UK) »
in case you do not have it
caroline tantrum daughter of thomas/caroline?tantram baptised on the 3rd feb 1833 at burford,shropshire
ext.rec. I.G..I.
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #38 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:51 BST (UK) »
that is the only child i can find baptised in burford
with father thomas

do you have any of the censuses apart from 1841,1851 which i have just given you for this family
will await your reply
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #39 on: Friday 16 July 10 22:54 BST (UK) »

Hi again

No I don't have anymore on this wee twig ... appears that Thomas
died 1865 and this may be Catherine in 1881 ??? do you think???

RG11 2627/82 Page 2
Richard WYER      Head      W      aged 68 b. Stottesdon, Shropshire,
 Farmer Of 62 Acres      
 Catharine TANTRAM   Border  W aged  71 b. Stottesdon, Shropshire,
 Jane CHANDLER      Serv      U      Female aged 14  b. Stottesdon, Shropshire
 Domestic Serv      
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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #40 on: Friday 16 July 10 23:04 BST (UK) »
possibly her
will do the earlier census 1861,1871 see if it can tie up with 1881
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #41 on: Friday 16 July 10 23:21 BST (UK) »
caroline marries in 1854 in tenbury to a george bradley
george bradley/caroline tantram
y.o.r. 1854
qtr; jan/feb/mar
dist; tenbury
vol; 6c
page; 283

here they are in 1861
RG9/2083/30/16
george bradley age 30. b. shropshire. occ. farmer of 340 acres. head
caroline age 28. b. burford. wife
clara catherine age 10. b. burford. daughter
thomas bregges bradley age 4. b. burford. son
george ernest bradley age 1. b. burford. son
joseph jones age 25. b. radnorshire,wales
mary owens age 15. b. shropshire. occ. house servant
thomas gittens age 16. b. shropshire. occ. cowman
hubert moyle age 12. b. shropshire. occ cow boy
living at;shear farm,burford,shropshire
reg.dist; tenbury

cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #42 on: Friday 16 July 10 23:23 BST (UK) »
so clara catherine must have been born before the marriage
either she is the daughter of george bradley from a previous marriage or caroline is her mother and she was illegitiimate
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #43 on: Friday 16 July 10 23:32 BST (UK) »

could be illegitimate for sure in those days did they register under
the fathers name or the mothers maiden name

Not that that one matters in the scheme of things...I'm having to skirt
round the fences to pinpoint the Trantrum/Tantram - Allen connection
that eventually brought them to New Zealand

HAHAH ohhh heck its a puzzle but thanks to you made huge inroads!

Bassano: (ALL areas)
Drake: London, Essex, Kent
Hawkins: Shoreditch, Hackney, Essex
Meaney: Co Cork - London
Morrison: Scotland-Canada-New Zealand

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Re: 1841-51-61 Lookup: ALLEN family pls
« Reply #44 on: Friday 16 July 10 23:35 BST (UK) »
right back to catherine
here she is in 1861
transcribed as tuntrum
1861
RG9/2083/19/13
thomas tantrum age 69. b. burford. head(no occ given)
catherine age 50. b. burford. wife
mary pugh age 77. b. burford. lodger
thomas beddoes age 14. b. bitterley,shropshire. visitor
mary withey age 13. b. burford. occ. house srvant
living at;tilsop cottage,burford,shropshire
cattell,alcester
vickers,sulgrave
hewish,holborn
manley,bethnal green
barnes,bassingbourn