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William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« on: Sunday 18 July 10 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi, I know gladys was born in 1894 in staffordshire. her mother is emma and father is thomas.
She married william broomhall - they were married in 1925 in wolverhampton, staffordshire.  I believe williams father was also called william.  I'm trying to find further information regarding him.
if anyone can give me more info that'd be great as i am stuck.  Thank you, Becky :-)

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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 18 July 10 01:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Becky

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

From the 1925 marriage certificate - how old was William Jnr? And what was William Snr's occupation?

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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 18 July 10 01:39 BST (UK) »
There are 5 William Broomhalls on 1901 census. Two with father William, one married, one a 12 year old inmate BUT this one the only one in Staffs.
RG13/2681/63/8
61 Oxford Street Wolverhampton
William Broomhall 39 Emery wheeler born Wolverhampton
Eliza 39 born Bilston
Annie 13 b Hilltop Factor's errand girl
Lily 11
William 9
John James 7
Emma Martha 2
George E Downes 22 boarder bricklayer's labourer
All born Wolverhampton

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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 18 July 10 08:35 BST (UK) »
Wow thats brilliant thank you for the information!!!!!

Would the marriage certificate show Williams' DOB or age when he got married, as this could confirm if this is the correct William?!  If so how do you go about ordering one? (and how much do you pay  :) )

Thanks again, Becky  :D


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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 18 July 10 10:29 BST (UK) »
Hi Becky
The marriage certificate will give the bride and groom's ages at marriage. Just have to hope they told the truth!  It will also give you the  names and occupations of the fathers of the bride and groom and the occupation of the groom.

This is where you order the certificate.  www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp
In this case i would just put in the grooms name as there are two entries for Gladys - one with her name as Hartshorne and the other as Hartshorme.

The details are William H Broomhall Sept 1/4 1925 Reg District Wolverhampton vol 6b page 123 but check on FreeBMD to make sure.

The cost went up last April and is now 9 pound 25 I think.  It will tell you on the GRO site.

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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 17 September 11 15:53 BST (UK) »
I've now received the marriage certificate of William Henry Broomhall and Gladys Hartshorne.  William was a stamper (runs in the family as my dad is also a stamper); his father is noted as Frederick Broomhall a foreman. They lived at 72 Walsall Road.  The marriage was in the presence of Louise Hartshorne (which is Gladys sister) and George Frederick Broomhall (maybe his brother?!)  I have been searching the 1901 census and can't find a frederick or George frederick anywhere that matches up.  Can anyone help? Many thanks :-)

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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 17 September 11 21:47 BST (UK) »
Hello again
What is William's age on the marriage certificate?

I also think that the William age 9 in 1901 family I posted earlier is actually William Hezekiah. See FreeBMD.

FreeBMD has a birth registration for a William Henry Broomhall Sept 1/4 1905 Wolverhampton vol 6b page 670
which would make him age 20 when he and Gladys married.

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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 17 September 11 22:06 BST (UK) »
Hiya :-)
William was aged 20.  Gladys was aged 19.  Marriage was August 16th 1925.
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Re: William Broomhall / Gladys Hartshorne
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 17 September 11 22:21 BST (UK) »
Ok then he has to be the William Henry born 1905 posted above. There is only one problem with that, in 1911 he is with his grandparents Henry and Sarah and tracing them back through the censuses to 1881 census they do not have a child called Frederick. They do have a Haydon  who is William Hayden in 1901 born 1897 but he would be too young. This family also do not have a George in the family. Bah!
Of course buying the birth cert would solve the problem. It would definitely give his mother's name and hopefully his father's name if he is not illegitimate.
I will have to leave it for a little while but will look again later. meanwhile someone else may come up with something :)